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Vanity Lighting (with a twist)

6 years ago

I get that this is not on-trend, conventional, or how it’s done. It’s how I’m (very likely) going to do it anyway.

I’m going to have a 60” single sink vanity in between two walls - the 60” width of my bathroom.

There will be one small mirrored, antique medicine cabinet above the sink (photo below.) on either side of the medicine cabinet will be art.

Below is a to-scale drawing of the vanity and medicine cabinet. The art drawn in is just an example and does not represent any actual art.

I would like lighting to illuminate the medicine cabinet - and maybe the art, but don’t require strong task lighting (I don’t wear makeup, no one lives here who shaves their face, etc.)

What ideas do you have about types of lighting that would work given this scenario?

Comments (25)

  • 6 years ago

    Thanks, Patricia. With the bar light no wider than the medicine cabinet, correct?

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    Perhaps a single wall mounted fixture above the medicine and maybe a couple of downlights on either side that will light the countertop but will also highlight your artwork. Since the downlights would be recessed they would provide lighting without competing with the wall mounted fixture. Good luck!

  • 6 years ago

    Thank you Norwood architects. I’m assuming you mean recessed ceiling lights?

  • 6 years ago

    Most bar lights seem to project from the wall only a few inches. My medicine cabinet is 6” deep. I’m assuming the bulbs should project 6-8” from the wall. Is that correct?

  • 6 years ago

    Thank you.

    I will have a 60 inch vanity with six 18” drawers. I also have another bathroom with a large medicine cabinet, a vanity drawer and a closet.

    I am not that young, and I have plenty of room for my medicine. Besides, I keep all of my daily medicine/vitamins in my kitchen, since I take them with meals. Any other medication and first aid supplies is used infrequently enough that keeping them in a drawer is perfectly convenient.

    The small medicine cabinet meets my daily needs perfectly, with room to spare.

  • 5 years ago

    How large is the artwork? Larger than your mirror? Smaller? You could use lights designated for illuminating artwork of you have a main ceiling light.

  • 5 years ago

    The artwork is to be determined.

  • 5 years ago

    Ps: my above comment - the one with the photo of the open medicine cabinet - was in response to a comment that the commenter appears to have deleted. The gist of it was that I should “get real & get a normal sized medicine cabinet that’s actually functional for storage...”

  • 5 years ago

    I would think about a light bar fixture like this, but with one more light. My pic is a 48” vanity between 2 walls. Yours will be a 60” and could use the extra light. Even tho u don’t apply makeup, it will illuminate your face in the mirror, your artwork, and just look better in my opinion 😊

  • 5 years ago

    Thanks Carol. I don’t think that light extends nearly far enough to light my medicine cabinet, which is 6” deep.

  • 5 years ago

    Three suggestions:

    1. Instead of three drawers on each side, try to get banks of four drawers. It’s hard to find things in deep drawers....shallower drawers work better, and banks of four drawers will offer shallower storage.
    2. You may not use makeup, and nobody needs a shaving mirror, but you might want a slightly larger mirrored medicine cabinet to see your hair better. A larger mirror will also reflect more light onto your face and hair.
    3. If you have a good central ceiling light fixture, you may just need a two-light sconce over the medicine cabinet. If the medicine cabinet is surface-mounted rather than recessed, the sconce lights should extend beyond the front of the medicine cabinet in order to light the interior of the cabinet when open, and to reflect light off the mirror onto your face with the mirror door closed.
  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Carrie, LOL. I can think of at least 6 people here on Houzz who make such "helpful" comments just like that. Helpful is another word for snarky, bitchy, etc. Makes me want to say "well, bless your heart" in that overly sweet Southern way that does not even remotely mean to be sweet or a blessing. Do you know what I mean? They must get enjoyment out of acting that way. I just read a post about a 120 year old house with a tiny bathroom and a couple of people told her to tear down a wall. Not everyone wants a bedroom sized bathroom. I don't. Not to mention they were basically telling the OP to clean her bathroom. That was unnecessarily rude!

    I can see a shower curtain on the left, so your vanity is not in a dark alcove with walls on both sides, but I don't know what other lights you have. Do you have a window? I am trying to think of lights that stick out more than 6" from the wall, and the only thing that comes to mind are Trac lights. Damp rated. If I see lights that project further than 6", I will post a picture. Do you think 8" will do?

    Carol, I love that light and especially the mirror!

  • 5 years ago

    Felizlady - Too late on the drawer banks, but I definitely see your point about four shallower drawers being preferable. For me, personally, I don't have a need or desire to see more of my hair or for it to be particularly well lit. I do have another bathroom with a larger medicine cabinet & light over it, as well as a dressing room with a full length mirror. I am looking for a light fixture with decent extension over the medicine cabinet, and will also have recessed general lighting in the bathroom. Thank you!


    Peke - Yeah, I know one or two of those people on here. Unfortunately, their (sometimes) good advice often gets lost in the unpleasant tone. The photo of the medicine cabinet is not where it will be - I had my partner hang it for me so I could get a sense of the size and whether it will meet my needs - and it does. I am looking for lighting with an extension of at least 8". I hope that's enough.


    Here's a photo of the general layout:


  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Next to a window! I am so jealous! I have 3.5 bathrooms and not one has a window. Dracula must have built this house.

    So, do you want a light over the mirror or do you want sconces beside the mirror?


    A fancy, schmancy light? Ccntemporary? Traditional? Rustic might look nice with your cabinet. What color? Chrome, brushed nickel, etc?

  • 5 years ago

    Peke - I'm pretty sure I want light over the medicine cabinet - on the wall and/or recessed ceiling lights. I don't like the look of sconces - I think they can make a wall look cluttered, and distract from any art.

  • 5 years ago

    I forgot about the artwork.


  • 5 years ago

    Bar light




    Vanity light




    Strip light



    Fancy?

    Rustic?

    Farmhouse?

    Modern?


    Color?

    Expensive or not?


  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    What kind of bulb?

    Do you want a fixture that can take incandescent and LED both?

    Do you want an integrated LED? I don't like these because if the bulbs fails, I have to get an electrician out and have him install a light.

    10.75" depth



    Go to Build.com and click on lighting, then vanity lights. Scroll way down to check the bulb type. Find the Location Rating and check DAMP. Then, check the Extension box.

    Build.com has a great website, but some lazy people there do not enter the information correctly. They say it is the manufacturer's fault, of course. Once you find a light, you can buy it anywhere.

    Example: Without checking any boxes, it says there are over 11,800 damp rated lights. Some may or may not be damp rated because someone was lazy when describing the light or didn't understand what damp rated meant. When you look at all the bulb types, they only show 6,000. Some of the difference is Integrated LED bulbs which I guess would be no bulbs, technically. Or maybe someone forgot to enter which kind of bulb the fixture takes. Makes me crazy that I have to spend hours searching for a light. Once you find one, go to the manufacturer's site to make sure it is damp rated or make sure of the bulb type or extension. Sometimes, even the manufacturer's site will say two different things. I had sent a lot of lights back until I learned not to trust their info.

    I found one light that said 24" extension, but will it really stick out 24"? No, someone put the width as the extension. Sometimes I don't check any boxes because if I check incandescent, it skips some incandescent fixture because someone didn't enter the bulb type. Makes for hours and hours of searching, which is why I still don't have bathroom lights. Every one of those side boxes could be wrong.

    Still, build.com is the only site that I can remember that lets you choose an extension so you can find a light that is more than 8" deep. Good luck.


    Recessed lights- Do you mean in a ceiling or a soffit ceiling?

  • 5 years ago

    Given the antique look of your medicine chest, why not a Farm light that will project over the chest and can be slightly articulated to shine towards your face. The, on either side, as has been suggested, recessed lights that can be focused on the artwork on either side of the chest. Thus, only one “visible” light in the center. Two others recessed.

  • 5 years ago

    Will there be other lighting in the room?

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Ptreckel - what is a farm light? I want a transitional look, more than a farm look... The medicine cabinet is antique, but simple enough that I think it will work with anything but super-modern looking lighting.

    Bpath - yes. A light over the bath, and several (# & exact locations tbd) recessed, general ceiling lights.

  • 5 years ago

    Peke - in both the bar & strip lights I've looked at (and I've spent many, many hours at Build.com & other lighting sites) the projection is rarely over 4", so not far enough to light my medicine cabinet. Build.com has been the *least* helpful in terms of extension: the options are 1-4" and then 4"-15". I'm looking for in the vicinity of 8-12". Other websites allow me to narrow that down. LIghting Direct allows me to search by extension in a much more helpful, narrower range.


    Here are some of the lights I've liked, in the 2 bulb category - all with about an 8-10" extension. I believe they are largely considered "transitional."


  • 5 years ago

    I have complained to build.com about it. Houzz lighting search doesn't help much either.


    I will check Lighting Direct for my lights, thank you.


    I think lighting is one of the most difficult things to choose. Far harder than choosing a paint color. For me, at least. I don't really like any of them...except a few that were over $800. Ouch! Not paying that for a light.

  • 5 years ago

    Peke - I called build.com about the extension - and the agent sent me to Lighting Direct - I think they're all owned by the same company. I want to spend... not too much. Maybe $200 maximum, since I don't want lighting to be a focal point of the bathroom - I want lighting that will do the trick without drawing too much attention to itself.