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Felicia vs Mme. Alfred Carrie

Hi all: I am looking for a fragrant low maintenance climbing rose. It will be climbing the fence that divides my yard and my neighbors. It will be close to both of our gates. Anyone have an opinion btw Felicia and Mme. Alfred Carrie? I like the fact that MAC is suppose to be almost no thorns, but I like the pink of Felicia. The ground at the location is pretty thin strip, with bad soil. I plan to amend, but given the thinness of the strip, what I can do is probably minimal.

Comments (10)

  • 5 years ago

    Could you post a photo of the potential site with a marker of where you plan to plant?

    grow power (zone 10a, alameda ca) thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 5 years ago

    MAC gets pretty huge (like, 20' huge); 'Felicia' in my experience is much more restrained. Both are very fragrant to my nose. MAC is growing perched on a rock, basically, in my garden, and doesn't seem bothered by its site, which might make it more suitable to poor soil. Both are lovely roses where suited.

    grow power (zone 10a, alameda ca) thanked Melissa Northern Italy zone 8
  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Here is the strip that I will be growing the rose in. It gets pretty good afternoon sun. The fence is on the right hand side is a little over 5 feet tall, but I am hoping to train it up the dividing fence btw the two houses.


  • 5 years ago

    @Melissa Northern Italy zone 8 How are the thorns on Felicia? Thank you.

  • 5 years ago

    So you plan to plant it next to where that blue flower pot is? And your neighbor's fence is the one on the left?

    -Chris

  • 5 years ago

    Yes, I plan to put it next to where the blue pot is. @roseseek do you have personal experience with Renae? How's it on disease resistance and rebloom? I am in zone 9/10, near san francisco and the bay so very mild weather. .


  • 5 years ago

    Yes ma'am. I've grown Renae in Zones 9b and 10a, Granada Hills, Northridge and Santa Clarita/Newhall and Pacific Palisades and Encino in the hills. There were never issues with rust nor any spotting diseases. If allowed to become heavily water stressed, it can mildew. I also observed it at Sequoia Nursery in Visalia over more than twenty years and never observed any issues with it. I've seen it at Kippy's house in Santa Barbara many times and it has been healthy there, too. Renae requires a bit of time to put out the roots necessary to support the climbing growth so you may want to push it in a pot of good potting soil until it achieves some size, but that isn't that uncommon for some climbers, particularly those which produce NO prickles. Thorns or prickles are climbing mechanisms, allowing the canes to snag on support to push themselves out through the canopy of the support plants into the sun where they will be able to feed themselves and flower to reproduce. If can produce the patience, I think you will really enjoy the rose. The scent is wonderful and it's lovely not being bitten when you encounter the plant.

    grow power (zone 10a, alameda ca) thanked roseseek
  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    I have MAC along a 6 foot fence and I have to clip back dozens of 6 foot canes shooting up along the top of the fence 3 times a year. mine is about 6 years old and has few thorns but very sharp and grabby. Notice that one cane going straight up in the first picture? She has made dozens even taller than this during her fall growth spurt and I need to cut them back again. Even MAC at Descanso Gardens growing on a 12 foot high arch puts out the same 6 foot canes shooting up all along the top. they cut them back each January and then she has a nice Spring bloom. My MAC last Spring. She is a lot of work to keep this small. Kinda like having a wisteria vine, which also need about 3 cutbacks per year.





    grow power (zone 10a, alameda ca) thanked Stephanie, 9b inland SoCal
  • 5 years ago

    I should have gotten back on this before--sorry--I would call 'Felicia' average-rose thorny, that is to say, pretty thorny.

    grow power (zone 10a, alameda ca) thanked Melissa Northern Italy zone 8
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