Software
Houzz Logo Print
hzdeleted_60638948

Are hydrogels safe to use?

5 years ago

When I say "hydrogel", what I mean are those water-retaining crystals that are used (mostly for potted plants) to help maintain humidity in the soil and to allow the gardener to cut down a bit with watering. I wanted to use them out in my garden around my new implants to help keep them hydrated between waterings,but I found the following article on Internet: https://cals.arizona.edu/yavap... (hope the link works). Mainly I'm troubled by the following statement: " Aside from these variable results, some gardeners are concerned with the safety of PAM hydrogels. As the name suggests, polyacrylamides consist of many linked acrylamide subunits. Acrylamide is a known neurotoxin in humans and is suspected to be carcinogenic as well. During the manufacture of PAM gels, residual acrylamide is present as a contaminant and strictly regulated in the United States to levels no more than 0.05% or 500 ppm for agricultural use. However, an international study recommended that polyacrylamide gels used in cosmetics contain a residual monomer level of only 0.1 to 0.5 ppm. Therefore, the PAM hydrogels manufactured for agricultural and garden use can contain much greater concentrations of (1,000 to 5,000 times) toxic acrylamide than that found in personal products causing concern among some users.
Additional health issues can be presented by exposure to the more or less intact polyacrylamide gel where toxic effects have documented. Health risks associated with the breakdown products of PAM hydrogels are entirely unknown, but exposure risk could be great to gardeners and green industry workers that are exposed over time."
Now, this article is from the year 2009-more than 10 years ago. I'm wondering if anything has changed since then,if there's been any new research or better yet, a change in the formulas used to make the gels. Does anyone have any more up-dated information? Thanks in advance!

Comments (15)

  • 5 years ago

    Kim, that is the kind of information we need. You really have seen it all.

    User thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 5 years ago

    I tried those crystals in my potted roses several years ago. What a mess! The stuff just turned into globs of slimy goop and it kept coming up to the surface. I ended up having to repot all of them to get rid of the stuff. I still have a jar of it around here because I don't know how to get rid of it!

    User thanked seil zone 6b MI
  • 5 years ago

    what an amazing story roseseek! wow!

    I havent used hydrogels but I did find a few instances online that advocated using agar-agar as a wetting agent. I liked that idea enough to find and buy agar-agar but did not get a chance to experiment since I bought it (right when COVID started). I am in zone 10 and we are dry dry dry. Has anyone used agar-agar, or agar powder for rewetting?

    User thanked kathyc_z10_socal
  • 5 years ago

    bart bart:

    You were seeking new research findings from robust study designs.

    I cannot help with that.

    But you do have something a bit reassuring - from roseseek’s case report.

    Regarding the second health concern:

    The subject is still alive, 30 years later.




    User thanked rifis (zone 6b-7a NJ)
  • 5 years ago

    Since I've posted this topic on the Gardenorg forum, I just cut-and -pasted my post from there onto here, since it's long. A poster on that forum wrote that Monsanto played a big part in the introduction of hydrogels;knowing that Monsanto had a part in the promotion of these things IS a big , big red danger sign .It's amazing how many totally dangerous things are put out on the market. The idea of me deliberately adding more microplastic into the environment is off the table.
    But I would like to know more about the biodegradable ones. Sadly, looking on Amazon,it is rather difficult to find products that have labels that clearly state the composition.I found one called "Firstclass Acquagel"; the label state that it is composed of demineralized water and cellulose fibers. https://www.amazon.it/gp/produ...
    There's also a product called Stockosorb https://www.amazon.it/gp/produ.... When I Googled this product, I found the manufacturer's page https://www.break-thru.com/pro... On this, they state that it does degrade in 1-3 years, breaking down into carbon dioxide, water, and Potassium salts. They also state that it's been tested as safe.I also found a page that explains the product in more detail ; here it is. https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws... In this PDF, they state that it is"Potassium polyacrylate, Cross-linked" and elsewhere" 2-Propenoic acid, homopolymer, potassium salt"
    Any opinions? I intend to investigate further, but I'm not of a scientific bend at all,so it will take time. But if there's anybody out there who DOES understand this stuff easily, I'd love to hear from them (yes, I am looking for a shortcut, lol).
    I do work constantly on mulching and other moisture conserving practices, such as adding "argilla espansa" and organic matter to my soil. But in solving a problem, my experience has been that the Integrated Pest Management approach is the most effective.

  • 5 years ago

    Bart, is this you, from Italy?

    User thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 5 years ago

    Potassium polyacrylate is Definitely biodegradable. I can read whole article due to my universities subscription, but you should be able to at least read the abstract.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S092913931830444X

    User thanked Stephanie, 9b inland SoCal
  • 5 years ago

    “I do work constantly on mulching and other moisture conserving practices, such as adding "argilla espansa" and organic matter to my soil. But in solving a problem, my experience has been that the Integrated Pest Management approach is the most effective.”


    bart Bart:

    Are you saying an IPM approach is effective in reducing your plants’ watering requirements???




    User thanked rifis (zone 6b-7a NJ)
  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Yes,Sheila, it's me, and sweet people like you are one of the main reasons why I re-joined these forums-I missed some of you folks.

    Thank you so much, Stephanie;that is reassuring to hear-i am so ignorant when it comes to science and I was fervantly hoping that someone like yourself would chime in and help me to interpret what I was reading. So this German product might be worth a try!

    Rifis, when I use the term "IPM" approach,what I mean is tackelling a problem with a combination of strategies; to win a war, it's good to have infantry,but much better if you add cavalry,and even better if you call in the navy and the air force. So, yes, the same thing holds for providing plants with a decent moisture level during the hot, dry summer. I am trying to work on the soil every year. So, the "infantry" is organic matter and mulch. This "argilla espansa" (Google translates this as "expanded clay") seems very promising; it's little balls of baked clay or some such that helps absorb water and also aereates the soil,which is a thing my soil sorely needs. This together with red lava rock (when I can find it) could be my "cavalry". The navy could be the betonite-based kitty litter that I add. This year I'm thinking of trying my soaker hoses again. In the past, these were a failure, since the water didn't get down deep and I found my unhappy roses all had roots pointing UPWARDS to the soil surface-horrors! I think I was trying to water too large of an area,so this time ,if I do decide to use it, I'll only use it on 6 of the new implants,and start very early in the season, with the idea of maintaining the moisture provided by the fall and winter rains rather than attempting to actually"water" them- Of course I'll still sometimes water them by hand,but it could ease the burden a bit (I have about 31 new implants to water this season-way too many.And here I was telling myself to limit it to 20...) So that could be the air force.

    Maybe I WILL try the gels-that could be my Secret Service,lol!

  • 5 years ago

    Oh, goody! I am so glad that you are back, Bart! I love to hear about the joys and tribulations of your journey. I'm struggling with figuring out the watering on my property and I remember you were even hauling water and dealing with soil issues too. It is all so inspirational, Bart. Some of us have taken a break, like Ingrid, during drought and environmental disaster. Sherry was a great writer in Florida and disappeared when she lost her husband. I hope these wonderful people come back too. We have to stick together.

    User thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 5 years ago

    Well, I went and ordered the potassium polyacrylate product. We'll see how it goes...

    Sheila, I'm still "hauling water and dealing with soil issues", lol. I left these forums because I was piqued that houzz leaked my e-mail to spammers, and then the lady that answers houzz questions on this forum simply denied it, without apologizing for the mistake. Plus I confess that I was scared by the political environment of the past four years,and wanted to avoid houzz because of that ,preferring to just post on the NGA forum. But I missed some of the people on these forums,and I missed the fact that some of them-like yourself-really took an interest in my doings,so I don't have to re-explain my situation every time I post questions of a particular sort. And,no, it would not be enough if i were to post my "USDA zone" next to my user name or post pictures-neither of these would communicate just what I'm dealing with. There is no substitute for people actually reading my posts and remembering me and my particular situation! And then there are people like lilyfinch who are just so sweet , and I missed them , too. And I'm really grateful to Stephanie on this thread for clearing up my doubts about the scientific terminology. When I post questions on a forum,I do so to try to stimulate a discussion of the matter, to help me understand the issue better,and to stimulate myself to research and think.

    Now, I still have to look up that agar-agar stuff that kathyc mentioned... So I am glad to be back as well, in spite of all the icky houzz stuff.

  • 5 years ago

    NGA was too smiley face for me. I'd rather have the straight story even if it is *#%!!!!

    User thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 5 years ago

    I recommend using unscented basic kitty litter as a substitute for the polymers.


    https://findanyanswer.com/can-you-use-cat-litter-in-potting-mix


    User thanked Henry Kuska
  • 5 years ago

    Thank you, Henry. I do use kitty litter-there's a great type available that is made of betonite that is a big help.

0