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Put bid on house, HATE the bathrooms!

5 years ago

Hello,

My husband and I put a bid on a house yesterday and I can’t stop obsessing over the look of the two bathrooms. Remodeled by the current owners in 2016, NOT to my taste. I expressed this during the walk-through and knew we would have to update floors and walls ASAP but this home isn’t cheap (NJ) and I have no idea how much it would cost to redo the tiles. Our broker quoted us $20K for just the master bath. I don’t need tiles all the way up to the ceilings. How can I save money??

Comments (83)

  • 5 years ago

    As others have mentioned there is no way that even one of the bathrooms can be done for the amount the realtor mentioned. However although the master is way too busy for my tastes in seeing it I have to smile. It reminds me of some of the "exotic" bathrooms seen in movies from the 30s to 50s. Only needs gold fixtures.

  • 5 years ago
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    holy moly, those are horrendous. I'd ask for a discount if you purchase this home.

    The demo alone on that master would be thousands. just the demo! you can save money if you do that job yourselves.

    But here's the thing, if you're going to rip it out, why not do it like you want it? That tub takes up a huge amount of space.

    Do it once and do it right. live with it if you have to, or get a discount on the home price. Expect to spend 40 to get something really nice.

    wouldn't you rather have this in the master?







    you could easily do a built in nook like this for the bath. if you like it built in, then do something like this with the simple tub deck surround, not tile.


    you don't want to go through another remodel. do it once. spend the money and do it how you like it with something that will hold its value.




    the other bathroom, again, thousands in demo and disposal. the shower/bath will have to be waterproofed and redone. (tile and materials, maybe under 10K) new drywall, paint, and flooring. for 10-15 this one could be done if you kept the vanity. (but vanities are only 1k or so, so not a big deal to change it)

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    Omg, those are some selections! 20k yes. This is a big look to erase.

  • 5 years ago

    The toilet placement in the master has got to be a code violation.

  • 5 years ago

    Pray that your offer is rejected. And walk away....quickly!

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    Just the tile is putting lipstick on a pig here. The master bathroom is a total gut job. The layout is almost as bad as the tile. The secondary bathrooms layout is fine but the tiles and mirrors and vanity are horrendous out dates and really tub and toilet is all that should be salvaged there. You can't just replace tile. It is going to destroy the drywall upon removal and then it will mean drywall replacement and tile. Master $30k and secondary Bath $15k and in your area likely 10% higher.

  • 5 years ago

    Geez. I think I would hope that the bid was not accepted and thank my lucky stars!

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    location, schools and layout are the biggies. you can change the decor. why not offer under asking so you have money to renovate? I'd rather have that than have a turn key house in a neighborhood I didn't really like, poor schools and a so-so layout. those are things you can never change.

    Plus if inventory is low, you may have to settle on something else.

    I'd put in an offer. if they take it, great. if not, move on. But I'd take a fixer in a great location any day, any time.

  • 5 years ago

    I know Beth and that’s why we put in an offer, which was accepted. But the interior design was the opposite of what I like. The kitchen though great quality, high-end finishes and fairly new was not my style, but I was willing to settle for it.
    This home will actually go over asking no doubt.
    The photos you posted are what I want. Fingers crossed that I get to call something like that my own.

  • 5 years ago

    I agree with Beth. I have what is nearly my dream house, except for the location. This was a competitive market and we jumped on it. The location caused some major buyers remorse down the line.

    Since you pulled the offer, that might have scared them, giving you leverage. Ask your agent if it's worth it to make another offer, and if so, how low can you go?

  • 5 years ago

    did you realtor say there were back up offers? Had you offered full asking?

    you said it's a pocket listing, so it hasn't hit the market yet. maybe other people will hate what you hate and put in a lower offer. I can't see anyone liking those bathrooms.

    Why don't you ask if you can redo the offer w/the credit for the master bath? maybe 40K less than asking? it's always nice to have that as an option in case the listing doesn't get snapped up immediately. or maybe someone else is going to offer less than asking and the buyers will take it. I'd at least try that option if you really like everything else about the house.

  • 5 years ago

    Beth our broker advised us how much we should offer to prevent this house from going to market. He’s a top broker who cut his commission from 5 to 3% to help make this deal happen bc he knows if it goes to market it will go over asking. He did this to also satisfy the seller and get us this house. There’s a certain European buyers crowd that would actually like this style hence why the bathrooms were not considered in the price. These bathrooms are name brand and from 2016. The sellers won’t budge on price. Our broker did not advise us to come in again with a lower offer bc there’s too many changes we want to make. It’s a 4 bed 3.5 2,500 sq ft house and every single room would have to be painted! Again there’s too many fixins for what we offered $$.

  • 5 years ago

    If the location and all other features are most of what you wanted, consider submitting a lower offer to reflect most of the needed changes. These people will soon discover that they have an albatross on their hands. They will not be getting top dollar. Too bad, if they had used white tile, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

    The good news was the baths are functional. You can live with them as is for a while. The master bath is beyond redemption. Budget $40k.

    The secondary bath can be reglazed white. It's not an expensive procedure. $1,500 maybe. No tear out. The tub is already white as are the countertop, sinks, toilet and tub. The brown strip or the small decorative tile can be masked off and kept if you want. Don't try to glaze the floor, it won't stand up to the wear and tear. The walls will wear well. It will actually look pretty spiffy if just the floor and cabinet are yellow.

    As an appraiser, one thing that cannot be changed is location and what we call external obsolescence (noxious stuff located around the property that you will have no control over).

    Sleep on it and think about whether you would like the house if the price were right. If yes, make an offer based on the price being right. Otherwise, keep looking.

  • 5 years ago

    Am I the only one wondering what sort of people the sellers are who made those decorating choices?

  • 5 years ago

    I would so love to see the link to the listing if/when it’s available!

  • 5 years ago
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    Marge, wow. who knew there were people that actually liked that! ?? lol

    Certainly you know best if the location is worth all the extra expense. I'd have to weigh the options between this location, and perfect layout, as opposed to a turn-key in less desirable and poorer layout.

    For resale, you know which one will get you the most equity.

    It's just a matter if you want to go through a full rehab and spending more money. If you were going to be in the house for more than 10 years, I'd say go for it. You get exactly what you want, in the best locale.

    what are the chances you'll find exactly what you like, for a better price, in a similar location/schools?? That's what you have to weigh.

  • 5 years ago

    Good move to back off that one. Hope they didn’t use the same designer for the kitchen remodel!

  • 5 years ago

    Carrie the listing isn’t public. It was a pocket listing not on the market. I did get a hold of all the photos in case it did go on the market but I can’t share anymore of those.

  • 5 years ago

    Marge A ..... I think you made a smart decision. I’m just curious, what is that hanging next to the towel bar in the master? “Art”? Mirrored? Wow, !

  • 5 years ago

    Beth you’re getting in my head lol. We have hope bc we already put a bid on another house 2 months ago in the same town for very similar price. We got outbid. That home needed nothing done to it AND was my style. So my kinda house is out there.

  • 5 years ago

    Just for a little perspective, I retiled JUST a shower in a master bath in SW Virginia roughly 4' x 3' and it cost just under $10,000. That was for removing existing tile (of JUST the shower), waterproofing, retiling, new plumbing fixtures, and reusing frameless shower door glass but changing to new hinges.

  • 5 years ago

    K Laurence a long mirror. The brown stripe behind the toilet is off center too which triggered my OCD lol

  • 5 years ago

    Flopsy the kitchen was all brown solid wood. Very modern with a busy granite countertop. No design just flat with long metal handles. It wasn’t a cheap remodel that I can tell. Again the materials are high-end just the style is not exactly mine. But it’s a kitchen I could live with.

  • 5 years ago

    Those numbers are INSANE. We gutted/tiled floor to ceiling..heated flooring, new fixtures all for under five thousand. DH did all the work...anyway I would find some meticulous workers and CAREFULLY remove the tile from ceiling to wainscoting height, trim and paint and call it done. The master isn't terrible, it's just too much. It's a room only you see. That alone makes it not worth 40K!!! The guest bath is very intriguing. Not many people want their bathroom to be a conversation piece but I would not rush to change it.

  • 5 years ago
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    Interesting how a similar tile can work well. Moderation is the key.


    Elle Decor

  • 5 years ago
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    That yellow one is WAY cool, and looks mid century. Keep that one. The other one is just a mishmash of materials from the 80's onward. Update that as you get opportunity; it will still be very nice if you change wall tile and floors.

  • 5 years ago

    personally, I don't think the 2nd one nailed nailed it at all. the yellow tiles are a really cool texture, but the brown border was already dated when they installed it in 2016, and is a hideous color next to the yellow. to make matters worse, the floor tile is black. it's like they were color blind.

    ...So my kinda house is out there.

    I hear ya. if you really do see signs that there are decent homes within your budget, then keep at it! you might need to be prepared for a really long search ahead of you, but take heart. it's worth it. your market might be hot but it's better to not rush into something you'll regret.

  • 5 years ago

    Midcenturymodern it’s actually lime green and dark brown.

  • 5 years ago

    Worthy, The difference is the subject house used a man made tile material. The example that you provided used a natural material. Natural wins every time. If they had used the tile from your example, we wouldn't be having this conversation.


  • 5 years ago
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    Marge-

    We're in a major metropolitan area, too. Four years ago we modestly redid our master bath, mainly because we were tired of the old tile. The project involved replacing a sunken tub with a freestanding one, hardly doing anything to the plumbing, keeping the existing sink faucets, and re-tiling the floor and the shower. Total paid to the contractor $22K, and that does not include costs for the new tub, the tiles that we purchased separately, and the new sinks and granite vanity top.

    If you would have moved forward with the purchase, the master bath re-do alone would have been at least $40K.

  • 5 years ago

    UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE
    The house we put an offer on and pulled out of just sold over $50K more than our initial, accepted offer.
    The broker was right...this house and it’s bathrooms would suite someone. Just not us.

  • 5 years ago

    just curious, what city is this? you mentioned "european buyers" and competitive market, so I'm guessing Toronto?

  • 5 years ago

    wow! I bet those sellers are super happy you backed out!

    I'm sure they don't like the bathrooms. they liked the location.


  • 5 years ago

    Thanks for the update! Yeah I'd say the master bath remodel alone would probably wind up being at least a 30k/6-week endeavor. If the owners weren't willing to negotiate the price of the house to compensate, then you made the right call. While I think I could have warmed to the funkiness factor of the guest bath, the en suite was really awful!

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    what city is this? you mentioned "european buyers" and competitive market, so I'm guessing Toronto?

    Not unless it's been annexed by New Joisy!

    *******

    There’s a certain European buyers crowd that would actually like this style hence why the bathrooms were not considered in the price.


    Throne Room

  • 5 years ago

    The right property will come along. Be patient. (You dodged a bullet!).

  • 5 years ago

    Worthy lol
    Maybe these buyers have the money to change the bathrooms. I mean I hope they do.
    I won’t give away the NJ Town bc I’m planning on living there hahaha. It’s Northern NJ though.

  • 5 years ago

    While not European when I saw the bathroom I thought that it would fit the tastes of the older generation Italian/Scillian/Crete's whose families were clearing out their homes after the family member passed on. Early mid 1990s. There was a used furniture store that accepted high end very ornate furniture then sent it back to those areas mostly for tourists to buy just one piece as a memory of their holiday. Now most are gone. This city had a furniture store called Prince Howard that sold reproductions from several centuries which is probably where the furniture was from.

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    My previous comment about reducing the offer price in light of the cost to replace looks pretty stupid in light of the new buyers coming along and paying WAY OVER the market. Good luck to them if they need financing. I hope they have lots of cash to bring to the table because that sucker won't appraise.

  • 5 years ago

    Homechef59 we got the inside scoop. Buyers waived inspection and appraisal. They ovi got
    $$$

  • 5 years ago

    wow. waived inspection and appraisal? they really wanted that home didn't they?!

    Curious to hear from you if they end up gutting it

  • 5 years ago

    Beth, I don’t know if I’ll ever find that out.

  • 5 years ago

    follow it on redfin! who knows, they might be flipping it.

  • 5 years ago

    Or laundering money.

  • 5 years ago

    marge, I just thought you were in the area and maybe would drive by it at some point.

  • 5 years ago

    Maybe the new buyers thought that they would be the first to have a yellow bath with the new Pantone Color of the Year 2021 :)

    https://www.pantone.com/color-of-the-year-2021 

  • 5 years ago

    Beth I’m sure we will drive past it in the future but we’ll never know if they made changes inside unless there’s a garbage dump in the driveway
    Right now we live in NYC, wanting to move to Jersey

  • 5 years ago

    GBel26 yellow wouldn’t be as bad. It’s actually green and brown 🤮

  • 5 years ago

    Paint the tile white. Done.