I love this rose. Mine (I have 3 - 2 of which are rooted cuttings of the old old one, which we think is at least 50+ years old) stay about 2 1/2 feet tall, which is amazing, because every other rose in my garden is on steroids as far as growing WAY bigger/taller than they are "supposed to". One of mine climbs a bit, but that is because it is under a huge old crab apple tree and Japanese quince, so it has gotten taller to get into the light. You can see it on the left in the below pic:

Mine is small but wonderful, own root.

Jackie, it's just a small rose. Blooms, more than it grows.

I used to grow this rose. In my garden it was glorious for its spring flush, then looked sickly and sad the rest of the season. I still miss it the way it was at its best, but not at all the way it was the other 10 1/2 months of the year.

Folly -- On its own roots, it had terrible disease problems here. Budded, it's very clean! But, of course, try buying it budded.

What great photos! This is a real beauty!

You are right, Jeri. I had mine on its own roots.

Long ago I was a devout convert to Heirloom's always own root policy. I was shocked when Mad Gallica put forth a different opinion though I listed with the respect that experience commands.

These days my philosophy is it depends on the rose.

@Rosefolly z5 which proves the statement, "just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you SHOULD." Many roses root well and grow well own root in many places, but not all and not everywhere. And, many will root, but they aren't worth growing on their own roots in many places.

Thanks for posting pictures of this beautiful rose Jeri. I have very few China roses, but would like to try more. I am in a similar climate to Sheila, so maybe it would do well for me like it does for her. I emailed Burlington to see if she has one available.

sheila.....wow!! Not only is EdB stunning in your pictures, but your garden as well! I love your companion plantings and fountain

Roselady, EdB can be gorgeous and it smells incredibly! However, if rust is an issue where you are, it WILL rust unless sprayed. That is what finally made it leave my garden. There are plenty of others which won't rust here, so they have taken their places.

My "whoever it is" does not look, or act in any way like a china, except perhaps the color. It's growth habit is like a very short and small HT (see below) - it does not have that crazy growth of zillions of canes coming off other canes in all directions - it is rather vertical and a vase shape, with several vertical main canes, and new ones coming from the base (it also suckers off its own roots, which I have never caught any of my chinas doing). It has large leaves and blooms, although I have another "china" which does too - Le Vesuve, but Le Vesuve has the typical china growth habit. Of course, what ever it is it is probably a hybrid of more than one type, but I always thought it looked more like a Bourbon or a Hybrid Perpetual. Also, it does get BS, and none of my china roses do.

Jackie

There is no rust here.

Yes, it had rust. Also powdery mildew. But clean and lovely through the spring flush.

I am willing to keep roses which only rust some years, or maybe only late in the season. But rust buckets are not permitted to stay. I have pretty much stopped spraying, and if I do at all, it is once a year after pruning.

Does EdB turn black in hot sun?

"Black"? No, it can darken in brighter light but it's simply an intensification of its basic pigments.