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grids or no grids?

5 years ago

I’m planning a sunroom. I can’t decide whether to have grids on the sliding doors that lead from my dining room into the sunroom. I think the grids look fancier but they obstruct the view. No grids look bland but have a better view into the room. There is also an option to have removable grids but if I decide to have grids I would prefer them to be in between the glass (easier to clean) please help :)

no gruds
grids

Comments (38)

  • 5 years ago

    They are sliding patio doors, not vinyl windows. Does that change your opinion?

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    No grids between glass- they always look fake. Simulated divided light or no grids.

  • 5 years ago

    Got the fake look idea. What about obstructed view from my dining room looking into the room?

  • 5 years ago

    No grids to match the other windows/door and have a clear view into sunroom and out windows.

  • 5 years ago

    Grids BETWEEN double glass panels can look good and decrease the likelihood of dead birds resulting from a collision with the glass. I very much liked the ones we had before downsizing but there may be different levels of quality out there. Ask to personally look at what you're getting before committing.

  • 5 years ago

    There is one more option: removable grids that clip on.

  • 5 years ago

    That way I can sit firmly on the indecisive fence :)

  • 5 years ago

    Grids between glass can and do fail. It happens a lot. No grids is the way to go, looks better too.

  • 5 years ago

    How can grids between the glass fail? Do you mean they break inside the glass?

  • 5 years ago

    I don't care if it's a window or a door. vinyl grids on vinyl frames do not look like real, individual windowpanes. clip-on grids are usually installed on one side of the glass. when viewing from the opposite side, you can see the fakeness from a mile away. if the grid is between the panes, then it will look fake from both sides.

    also, these grids sometimes sag and bulge away from the glass, looking even worse. (which is why I think Anne Duke mentioned failing.)

    and if having no grids opens up the view? win win.

    suezbell-- that's a great point about bird strikes, and it actually would be a better solution than stickers. but the op said this is an interior door.

  • 5 years ago

    Great input from all of you. I really appreciate your comments

  • 5 years ago

    Brain freeze. Thought you meant grids for the sun room. Do consider that people, and not just children, can forget and try to walk through clear glass, so traditional grids would still be my personal preference. However, since this is an interior door, if a wood sliding door is within your budget you might consider those.

    Alternately, IF the sun room is also heated, you might find more options with a barn style sliding door but you'd not want to use those if the sun room is not climate controlled..

    You might ask your building supplier if there is anything available besides traditional grids such as non-traditional shaped grids or tinted or frosted or even etched glass but be careful not to choose something that resembles a shower door.


    https://doorsmagz.com/decorating-ideas-of-etched-glass-interior-doors-for-your-home/sliding-etched-glass-interior-doors-for-kitchen/

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    The grids in the sliding doors that were in the house I had before downsizing -- three of them -- are all still intact and that was built in 1988. It just changed hands again and there were pictures of the rooms on line for a few weeks before it sold.

  • 5 years ago

    Another question is why have sliders from your dining room to the sunroom at all? It looks like you're adding a fully enclosed sunroom, so I'd widen the doorway and keep it open so it becomes a part of the house.

  • 5 years ago

    calidesign Perhaps the sunroom is not heated/cooled?

  • 5 years ago

    calidesign Perhaps there is a desire for conversation/sound privacy?


  • 5 years ago

    I did have a concern about walking into a grid less door. I like the look of the door with grids on the link you shared. Thank you. I am planning no grids for the windows in the sunroom. My biggest concern at first was the slightly obscured view that grids create.

  • 5 years ago

    calidesign Perhaps there is a step down and not having the door in place presents a potential hazard about which the door could forewarn?


  • 5 years ago

    The room is not a step down but we wanted to feel like we are going outside even if it is an illusion

  • 5 years ago

    The door definitely needs to lock because there will be access to the room from the backyard

  • 5 years ago

    "Marvin" sliding glass doors have a couple of non-traditional French sliding glass patio doors.

    https://www.metropolitanwindows.com/marvin-doors/sliding-patio-doors.html

  • 5 years ago

    Thank you.

  • 5 years ago

    You're welcome. Let us know how your project turns out.

  • 5 years ago

    Right now I am leaning toward no grid. Watch this space. Lol

  • 5 years ago

    you can have the look of windowpanes if you really want. I think we're just all trying to tell you to avoid vinyl grids that are only on one side of the glass (or between panes). the design and construction makes a big difference on how real it looks. (I'm not sure if getting grids on both sides of the glass is even possible for sliding doors though?)

    have you considered french doors instead? that would be so pretty for a sunroom. this below is vinyl, does not have grids, and certainly does not look plain:


    or if you did sliding doors without grids, you could always put some decorative drapes on either side to dress it up if you think it looks plain. even if you never plan on closing them, they will look nice.


  • 5 years ago

    French doors are not possible unless they open into the sunroom. I don’t want to take up space in the room. We will already have one swing door to exit the room to the outside.
    Our architect has specified Anderson 400 series frenchwood gliding patio doors. 7/8” full divided light in colonial pattern. Any thoughts?

  • 5 years ago

    Do your other windows have grids? If not, keep the door clear also.

  • 5 years ago
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    I have Anderson 400 series, "true" divided light. Anderson allows you to choose how you want the muntins placed. I live in a ranch style home, chose 2/1 for my windows

    and full view for the 12' sliders.

    I agree with your choice of not having a full set of muntins, too busy. But, keep in mind you can design the muntins any way you choose, which is great if your home has a specific style.





  • 5 years ago

    My other windows around my house have have 6 over 1 with the grids between the glass. We decided not to have any grids on the sun room windows to make it feel like we are as outdoor as possible. The sliding doors I am debating won’t be seen much if at all to the outside world. It was just my view from my dining room into the sunroom that I was wondering about

  • 5 years ago

    Our house has 6 over 1 windows, true divided lights in the old windows (original to the house), and simulated divided lights (grids on both sides with the filler between) in the new windows. The slider in the back room going out to the porch has simulated divided lights. We felt it looked better with the window in the room and suited our house better.

    Does your dining room have windows, too, or just the slider? What is the style of the house?


    We had toothpick grills (how we referred to the clip in things) on the windows before we replaced those windows ... they were a nuisance, they didn't look as good, and they'd fall out. Pick anything other than clip in grids.

  • 5 years ago

    I have the Frenchwood sliding glass door in my basement walkout with no grids. They replaced French doors with grids. The French doors took up so much room in the space, it’s so much nicer with the slider. I couldn’t believe the difference no grids made in my view! I honestly felt like I was outside:)). I vote no grids for your slider looking into the sunroom. I’ll try to find a pic and post for you...

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Do you have room for French doors? Much nicer in my opinion. My in laws have sliding doors from dining area to sunroom. No one walks into the glass. Lol. But it is very noisy with everyone open and shut. we Are also alway worrying about grandkids fingers pinched in door. They do save space though and French doors Would not work in their space.

  • 5 years ago

    Here they are Susan...

  • 5 years ago

    Thank you for the pictures of your doors. I think that would look great in my sunroom! That helps a lot!!

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    I agree with Ilovemod! Simulated divided light just doesn't look right. Also, if this is going to be a sunroom you don't want something that will obscure view. Good luck!

  • 5 years ago

    Thank you :)