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Advice for my sad container Eureka lemon tree?

5 years ago
last modified: 5 years ago

Hi there,

Last year, we were gifted this lovely Eureka lemon tree; it was tall, full of foliage and lots of buds, and we placed it in our very bright solarium where it received full sun for 6+ hours a day during the summer (Vancouver, Canada). We were told by the garden centre to repot it immediately but I did wait about two weeks and then repotted it into a larger container with 1/2 garden soil and 1/2 potting soil (Miracle Gro which I didn't realise was garbage soil to use...live and you learn I suppose). We also fertilised it with two Jobe citrus sticks for container citrus plants as per the instructions for the size of the container. The tree had one bout of mealybug infestation and for days upon days, I handpicked off mealybugs and sprayed the tree down with neem. During the first month, the tree lost all its leaves and all the initial flowers and little lemons which I was told would be expected as it got used to the new surroundings. As it got warmer, we moved it over a few inches on to the patio and it was having the time of its life. It recovered very quickly and had tons of new growth, buds everywhere, and 17 lemons!!! This was a very hot summer so I was watering it about a litre of water a day but it was flourishing so I figured it was all fine.

Then winter came around so we brought the tree indoors into our living room which had less sun but was warmer than the solarium as we were told by the garden centre that the tree won't be able to tolerate the cold. Here is where everything went wrong (a lot of it was my fault, too). It dropped all of its leaves but the lemons all ripened. We figured perhaps this would be a good time to prune it down a bit too because it was pretty gangly looking. I know I overwatered it because I was watering it about twice a week and later found out that was wrong. The tree was miserable and I was sure it was dying. But it seemed like it was pulling through somehow so I kind of left it alone.

At the start of April, we moved the tree back to the solarium and we had a wonderful two weeks of very warm weather and lots of sunshine. During this time, the tree just exploded with new growth! There were new little branches shooting up everywhere but mostly closer to the base of the tree. Because it was so hot, I watered the tree once every three days and allowed for it to drain completely and also thought it might like some fertiliser so I added one of the Jobe's sticks as well. But suddenly in the past two weeks, the majority of the little new growths shrivelled up, turned black, and fell off. Now some of the branches that seemed to have been okay after the pruning sessions have turned brown. I thought maybe I overwatered and now I check with a water metre which still reads "wet" so I have not watered the tree for over a week and a half which works out because we've had some gloomy days anyways. I then thought maybe it's the fertiliser so I dug that up and tossed it. I have not touched the actual roots of the tree but I have dug deep a bit to check and see if there is potential root rot but I don't think there is because there is no slim or smell - nothing. There were some spider mites that I treated and it looks like they are gone. There is no new growth.

I would love to get some advice on what I could do to bring back my tree from this weird phase or death potentially. Do I cut the browning branches even if there is a somewhat healthy-looking green stem poking out? Also, the branches do seem like they were grafted so is pruning that a no-no? I would be terrified of repotting my lemon tree as this poor thing has had so much stress already - I would feel like that might just kill him off entirely. It is not dropping any leaves and it doesn't seem like the leaves are curling up, but as you can see from the photos there are some weird spots that turned up on the older new leaves but not on the newer new leaves if that makes sense.

I have included here some before, during the winter, and recent photos of the tree. The tree is in a well-draining pot and is elevated so that water does come out completely. When I water him I do wait for it to drain and then I just use a turkey baster to get rid of the water at the base of the saucer.

Before: When the tree first arrived, it dropped its leaves and little fruit but then flourished again.




During the winter: Leaves drop, lemons ripen, sorrowful tree.




Now: Back to the solarium area. Browning branches, loss of cute new growths, leaves with some weird spots, overall depressed (or am I imagining it and it's actually fine?).













This tree is so loved. I would do anything to have it flourish once more.

Thank you for reading this essay. I appreciate any and all advice!

Comments (8)

  • 5 years ago

    Nice to meet a fellow Citrus grower in Canada. I would like to start from the beginning. Record Buck Farms is one of the top Container grown citrus suppliers in the USA and probably the largest supplier to Canada. Here is a photograph of one of their labels. In the bottom right hand corner it says, “Can I leave it in the pot? Yes you can”. Having hung out on citrus forums a long time I am not surprised by the message. The 1/2 garden soil you used was too heavy and the 1/2 miracle grow probably had a wetting agent.


    Kotlet00 thanked Lemon Lime Orange Zone 6a
  • 5 years ago

    I would also recommend the same, many potting soils and especially miracle gro potting soils hold too much water for citrus and need special care, especially indoors, if used. (Special care being watering only when allowed to dry out deep enough), and even then it should only be a stopgap. I would remove the old soil and pot into a good citrus mix (stay away from miracle gro, lemon lime might have some better suggestions for canada, but if you can get G&B organics, it's a well drained mix of pumice, peat, and bark with some additives and it works well). Then water it well and let it dry a bit between waterings. You'll definitely need to look for rotted roots and remove them. Then don't do anything to the tree for several weeks to several months while you let the tree recover. It may lose some more leaves before starting to grow again.

    Kotlet00 thanked bonsai_citrus_and_indoor_gardening
  • 5 years ago

    Thank you so much everyone for your responses!! It is so appreciated!


    I will go ahead and spend the weekend repotting the tree with the soil composition that you have all suggested and take a look at the roots as well. I wouldn't be surprised if I find the roots in a state as the poor guy had a rough over watered winter.


    After repotting and deep watering, should I fertilise as well or leave it be? I have a 28-10-10 water-soluble plant food; would that be okay? If not, any recommendations?

    Do you recommend that the tree stay indoors or should I place it outside on the patio where it will receive direct sunlight with some partial shade?


    One last question: How far should the branches be cut? I am a bit reluctant to cut back on these branches as I don't know if these are graft scars?






    Thank you so much!!!

  • 5 years ago

    @Lemon Lime Orange Zone 6a

    Hello, fellow Canadian citrus fan! Thank you so much for your response. Do you have any recommendations for good soil I can pick up here in Canada?

  • 5 years ago

    Hi Kotlet00. Canada has some of the best peat bogs in the world. They are 90% of Canadian wetlands and they cover approximately 113.65 million hectares. Canada produces 1.34 million tons annually. The United States imports 87% of our annual production representing 95% of their peat imports. In the Province of Ontario pine fines are not used and they are not sold at garden centers. You can buy larger chunks of bark for pathways but it does not have the same properties as the tiny pine fines. In the United States it is a regional product and some states it is readily available and in other states it is unavailable. You can find some recipes for potting mix at Four Winds Growers website. Rose soil works well. You can go to any cannabis shop in Vancouver and buy a premium bag of potting soil. Avoid potting soils with wetting agents as they will keep citrus roots too wet. Look for potting soil with a maximum humidity of 60%. Citrus roots want to be in the 40-60% moisture range. I prefer clay pots without ceramic as they will dry out and breath. You want the pot not too much bigger than the root ball. If you put a small root ball in a large pot the soil at the bottom of the pot will remain wet and the root ball will begin to dry out.

    Kotlet00 thanked Lemon Lime Orange Zone 6a
  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    If you want the best results you need to buy a fertilizer that is specific to citrus. Citrus fertilizer has special micro and macro elements that citrus require. Fertilizer spikes are the absolute worst thing ever invented for citrus. You can't find citrus fertilize in Canadian box stores. You have to import from Amazon.com or Growscripts. Growscripts sells kits that are great for first time citrus growers. If you are placing an order with Growscripts also order the citrus tree nutritional spray and the calcium, magnesium, & boron bloom time spray. Commercial citrus growers always spray with nutrients. Problems develop in the leaves or fruit and they can be corrected much quicker with a foliar spray. Jacks is another good product which is powder you mix in water. Lots of good options but you have to import.

  • 5 years ago

    How did the tree turn out? Lemon gave some good advice. I hope you used it)