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AH Hoyas order has arrived!

5 years ago
last modified: 5 years ago

Yes, it took a long long time. But overall these look really good.

The moss was dry on most so they are soaking which means I have not been able to inspect all the roots. Polystacha has great roots and is big, bold and beautiful!

The only one so far that is disappointing is the root system on the NS05-055. It's basically non-existent.

Group shot 1: carmelae (they sent a lot of this), NS 05-055, sp Rangsan



Group shot 2: hanaiea pink, polystacha, and merrilli







Merrilli is the one I paid the upcharge for Medium. It's a very long vine. Not sure of the roots yet. Will update later.


Comments (38)

  • 5 years ago

    Popmama, those look really healthy. I don't think you'll have any problems whatsoever in getting them rooted and growing. I'm glad to see everything worked out for you.


    On your top picture, in the lower right corner - what plant is that?


    Also, in the second picture, lower left corner, which is that one?


    The third picture, polystacha? It looks fantastic! I wouldn't be surprised if you'll see a bloom this season already.


    Best of luck with the all. Please keep us informed. (now go fuss over them some more, I know I would!)....

  • 5 years ago

    Popmama, these look really great! I know you are excited!! Love the small leaves of the carmelae. I have this on my wishlist. The merrilli up charge to medium looks like it’s definitely worth it. Hope the roots are good. Good luck with them!! Can’t wait to see updated pictures.

  • 5 years ago

    Those look really good. So glad they arrived in such great shape :-) I bet NS 05-055 will have roots in not time since the vine is in such good shape (I assume that's the one in the top right corner of the first photo).

  • 5 years ago

    I hope you are right, SLD! The vine does look really good and could easily be cut into two smaller pieces. In fact, I might as well ask what you think about that. I've always understood that root development is more challenging when there are more than 2-3 leaves, so maybe I should cut it.

    I went ahead and added the names to the pictures hoping it's easier for everyone to see.





  • 5 years ago

    Popmama, putting in my two cents, and what little I know about hoyas, I wouldn't cut it just yet. It's stressed already, no reason to compound the level. If it were me, I'd grow it out, then clip it once it's established. Hopefully others with more knowledge will chime in.

    Good luck with whatever path you choose.

  • 5 years ago

    popmama, a couple of mine from AH Hoya were long strands without good roots, and I did cut them both into two pieces right away and potted them in the shale. All have rooted well. I do think that rooting a long vine with a lot of leaves may be more difficult and take longer to root.

  • 5 years ago

    Bill, I love the idea of a large lovely vine! And that is one of the reasons for buying international is that you are getting something so large. It is definitely a tough call. we all want long vines!


    SLD, I appreciate your input. This is my inclination as well. Knowing the advice that I would surely receive from my nursery-owner friend. He would chop and prop. He always says it's hard for a plant to grow roots and support leaves at the same time. Especially that NS 05-055 that really had almost no roots.


    I may leave the merrillii alone. It had some decent roots.


    Since I was going out of town the day after they arrived, I put all of them in jars of water with the exception of the NS 05-055. I put it right into leca. I will probably chop it today and put the second piece in the same leca vessel.


    Then I will address the ones in water. Lots to do here!


    I spent three days touring nurseries on the Western slope of Colorado. I came back with a trunkload of annuals and perennials that also must be addressed. Don't take any of this as complaining because this is my favorite time of year! I love to be busy planting and arranging container gardens. Although I do sometimes lose focus on my houseplants.

  • 5 years ago

    Gorgeous plants popmama! I especially love the leaves on merillii and polystachya. NS 05-055 has been hovering on my watch list. How do the leaves feel?

  • 5 years ago

    I learned something! I never thought about a plant trying to support a long vine and multiple roots while trying to root itself. I guess that's why it is taking months, literally, for some of the vines I have to root. After almost three months I'm just beginning to see some growth.


    Going forward, should I ever come across some long vines again, I will follow your lead Popmama and cut them up into smaller portions. Everyone's suggestions on here make sense. Thanks for the input....



  • 5 years ago

    Oh trust me, I am not the inventor of that theory! I learned that from my friend. I hate to chop a nice, long vine but that's what he does. In fact, I had a very difficult time rooting a large philodendron cutting I received. I know, those usually root easily. but I had tried everything. My last resort was to take it to my friend. I knew he was going to chop it up, so I told him I couldn't watch. Just call me when it's rooted.

  • 5 years ago

    Popmama, that is exactly how I felt when my friend cut one of mine up..lol Boy do we think alike around here..

  • 5 years ago

    I've tried leaving long vines for some items and cutting them up for others. Long vines do seem to take longer, but it depends on the plant. Some of the woody stemmed ones like callistophylla and AH-029 I'd assumed would take longer to root and they were pretty fast. Carnosa red below took a while to start rooting but developed a LOT in about a 3 week period. I've had smaller cuttings do nothing at all in that time.

  • 5 years ago

    That's impressive for such long vines. I just can't decide! Long vines or fuller pot. OMG I have decision-making issues!

  • 5 years ago

    I chopped the NS 05-055 yesterday. That was the one that really didn't have any roots. I had the longer vine in leca. I checked it yesterday and it was starting to form roots which is good. But the leaves on the top of the vine were starting to look pretty thin and limp. I was concerned that the roots were not going to support those leaves. So I went ahead and chopped it and stuck the cut piece in damp perlite in a prop box.


    The last one I have to decide on is the merrillii. It's still just in water and the roots and long vine look good. I am leaning toward potting that one as is. But I have to find a trellis or hoop to support that vine. I did a lot of contemplating yesterday about it and wasn't able to make a decision (yes, I have that issue!). But it's imminent.


    I potted the polystacha in some chunky soil.

    The carmalae pieces are all in leca. I have heard some stories about that one being a bit finicky so I thought leca may be best for it.

    The hanhiae pink and sp Rangsan are both also in leca.


    I will post some update pics later today or tomorrow.

  • 5 years ago

    And one more thing...I was looking online last night and contemplated ordering more. I somehow managed to stop myself. I wonder how long that will last.

  • 5 years ago

    Hello everyone - my name is Popmama and I'm a hoyahollic....


    Let us know how the propagation goes. Best of luck with them.


    Some of the long noid's I received I placed directly into water to root and it took a number of months before roots began to show. almost 3.5 months in fact. I agree with you and others that it's better to chop up long vines and root them as smaller plants. I think the smaller the plant the earier it is for the water to nourish the leaves and the easier it is for roots to form. If I ever get anything long like that again, I will definitely cut and prop.


    Good luck with yours.

    popmama (Colorado, USDA z5) thanked Bill M.
  • 5 years ago

    Thank you, friend! Yes, I have a problem. It's called "too many hoyas I don't have!"

  • 5 years ago

    I have a similar disease, it's called I need another hoyaitis! I'm told it's pretty much incurable. Oh well, I'll just have to suffer! 🤣


    One of the side affects is not being able to stop checking on them, Couple that with always talking to them and I'm a charter member of the hoyaholic club!


  • 5 years ago

    lol, me too :-) I just got a loheri from Unsolicited Plant Talks and ordered a sulawesiana off Etsy. I've been eying AH Hoya's plant list as well. The one thing stopping me there is worrying about betting Hoyas shipped from Thailand in summer heat.

  • 5 years ago

    I know. I've been thinking the same thing, but I suspect you're right, I too think it's too hot to be shipping now, plus I don't think they'd have enough time to establish before the fall and winter sets in (at least I can rational this in order to not order!).

  • 5 years ago

    I loaded three hoyas in my cart on the MyHomeNature.com website. But then I managed to stop myself before completing the purchase.

    SLD, do you think that AH Hoyas has a new inventory list? The one I have is from February. If you feel like asking them, I'd be interested to see it. I will message you my email address.

  • 5 years ago

    popmama, they have a June 8 update on their website: http://www.ahhoya.com/PRICE%20LIST%20US.pdf

  • 5 years ago

    Thank you, SLD!


    The last of my AH Hoyas went to soil today. I decided to keep the long merrillii vine. I couldn't bear to cut it!



  • 5 years ago

    PM, Ohhh the merrillii looks so nice in the trellis.

  • 5 years ago

    Good luck with it popmama. Let us know how well it goes in rooting. I've found that when I tried rooting the longer older vines, it is taking a few months, and some still have not rooted. The shorter ones seem to root quicker. Keep us informed as to how yours progress.



  • 5 years ago

    Bill, fortunately this one already had roots. I had it in water all this time and I don't know if it grew more roots but I know it didn't lose any. I didn't want to leave it in water much longer though. Not sure why I felt that way. Just relying on instinct. I could have cut it and tried to root a second piece but decided to keep it as is. I can always chop later.

  • 5 years ago

    I am glad you did not cut it back. It's too beautiful so I know what you mean. We have to grow them for quite some time to even get that length, so nice idea.

  • 5 years ago

    Great update popmama! The merrillii looks so good potted up! I'm glad you didn't have any losses. Shipping can be so hit or miss and even if everything arrived healthy, now we not kill anything. Good job! I'm excited to see more pics. How's that polystachya looking? Please share a fresh pic if you may ☺️

  • 5 years ago

    I was imagining the new vine on hanhiae pink. It was there upon arrival. But it hasn't fallen off! I'll count that as a win. :-)

  • 5 years ago

    They all look great, popmama! I just ordered an elliptica from Gardino's. I think I need someone to stage an intervention for me.

  • 5 years ago

    PM, Wow...they are all looking really good and heathly!


    SLD, haha...I saw the restock and sent a message to PM for the sunrise. Cant wait to see the elliptica.

  • 5 years ago

    Well I'm not going to be of any use to you for that, SLD! I am currently 'watching' a few auctions of sunrise on ebay. And I just added Icensis and pachyclada new moon to my wishlist. Both of which may not be available for a while but well...no harm adding to a wishlist!

  • 5 years ago

    Update. Most of these are doing fine acclimating to their new homes. I still have NS05-55, carmalae, rangsan, and Hanhiae pink in leca. Sadly, polystacha has decided to cast off one of its beautiful big leaves. I just hope it isn't a sign of problems to come. I may unpot it and check the roots and put it in leca.



  • 5 years ago

    Popmama, I don't think that is anything to worry about - probably just reaclimating itself.


    I like the chunk pearlite - do you get that over the web? the pearlite I purchase is usually smaller than a virus!


    Your Hannaie - the smallest yellow areas. I've seen this on several plants displayed on the web. Is it a characteristic of the plant itself, in other words, just the way it grows?


    Your plants do look great though.

  • 5 years ago

    Bill, yeah I'm doing the usual "try not to panic over one leaf" plant parent thing. But boy it sure is hideous! And it seemed to happen very fast. I wonder if this chunky mix is just too dry for it.


    I buy the extra course perlite (#4) from Etsy (usually from PAOrchidExchange) just because I don't need a huge bag at a time. Too bad I don't know other people who want some nearby because you can buy a huge bag of it from the hydroponic grow store for a lot cheaper. But I just don't want to store the huge bag.


    I think you can also buy it on Amazon in smaller bags.


    I'm not sure I ever noticed small yellow areas. I'll have to take a look and see if I can show a picture where you can point me to what you mean.

  • 5 years ago

    I unpotted it just now. The roots are all super-dry. I'm putting it back into some water with SuperThrive for a day then I will put it in leca to see if it likes that better and starts developing some new roots.

  • 5 years ago

    Popmama, the super chunky mix I use forces me to water 2x a day! The water drains right through but doesn't "stay" long enough to fully wet and saturate all the big chunks.


    I had tried it thinking it would be better during the summer because I tend to over water my plants, but it's become a pain in the butt. I'm in the process of repotting my plants into something finer, which would hold moisture longer.


    I also have a lot of my plants in 4" net pots containing this chunky mix. I'm now taking those net pots and placing them inside 6" plastic pots, which will have a finer mix filling the gap around the 4" pot.


    Your plant probably dried out a little. Maybe add some humidity? A little dome out of a cut soda bottle as a small terrarium?


    Keep us posted as to how it's doing.


    Best wishes for you....

    popmama (Colorado, USDA z5) thanked Bill M.
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