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Do you know the name of this possible Tea?

I visited our local rose garden/park today and was impressed by this rose in the Tea section of the antique roses garden. This section is still pretty young (just a few years) and many of the roses are unlabeled. While quite a few roses had powdery mildew and other classes had balled pretty badly in our recently cool wet weather, this one looked and smelled fabulous.
Any ideas to what this rose could be?

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  • 5 years ago

    Gosh, Librarian, I don’t know. Honestly, I’m crap at rose ID online, but I’ll just toss in a thought or two. It looks like there are 2 different roses in the top photo? Something with smaller, nodding blooms on the order of Perle d’Or and then the other blush rose which you have captured in the many close-up photographs. That rose looks almost modern to me. My Tea roses have never grown upright on strong stems. The blooms are usually languid or nodding. The bushes sort of grow up....and then sideways shoots appear...and then sideways again...and then the branches lean and recline.... That blush beauty seems pretty straight up and forthright with handfuls of big gorgeous blooms. Carol

  • 5 years ago

    Well, color-wise at least, 'William R. Smith' comes to mind as a possibility, and that variety has a good reputation for disease resistance and fragrance. Don't grow it myself, unfortunately (no room for any more big teas), but I've seen it at the SJHRG.

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    Deborah, I grew WR Smith and he looked to me to have more petals, and also a bit creamier, though, of course with Teas that can change with weather etc. Also, it was a rangy beast for me. Rubens can be that pink for me, though is often paler. But I'm wondering if it is a Tea at all.

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  • 5 years ago

    From the pics, It reminds me of the Rose Johann Strauss.

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    I can’t find a good Tea picture, but these hint at the languid nature of Teas versus the sturdier, more upright nature of the rose you photographed. The photos also offer a glimpse of what I think of as Tea foliage versus the more modern foliage my eye is seeing in your photos. That’s Odee Pink below. Click to enlarge the photos. The thumbnail attachments cut off a chunk of the foliage and such. Your photos show a rose growing the way I always wished my Teas grew! Carol







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    I appreciate everyone's comments. I was wondering myself if it is in fact a tea. It is in a bed where all the other roses are teas, but it certainly does seem a little different. I wonder if it was mislabeled when they planted it. Many of th other roses in the bed are planted in groups of 3.

  • 5 years ago

    As you note, the garden may have received mislabeled roses from its source. We all know that can happen! If you know who to contact at the garden, you might inquire about the rose and its source. It’s a beautiful rose! I see why you were smitten. It kind of resembles the Belinda’s Dream sport Belinda’s Blush from photos I’ve seen, but it may be something else entirely. Were there any rose cultivar labels at all in the garden? I wish that every public garden would clearly label all its plants! Carol

  • 5 years ago

    @portlandmysteryrose about 3/4 of the antique roses had labels that I could find, just plastic nursery tags on a branch. I'm guessing that signs or more permanent labels are planned for eventually. The Hybrid Tea section has large sign labels. It looks like the majority of the antique roses are just a couple or few years in the ground. If I remember correctly, 3 springs ago that same area was all wildflowers.

  • 5 years ago

    Wow! A lovely day a the rose garden. I hope you buried your face in PR! Such fragrance!! Is the garden you visited the Owen Rose Garden? I need to visit that one again someday. Carol

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    @portlandmysteryrose yes it was the Owen Rose Garden. Some of the OGR look like they're been around quite a while like PR. And my the fragrance of PR was amazing. If I had a bigger garden, I'd plant it for sure. It looks and smells better than the Madame Isaac Pierre that is there.

    It looks like a huge portion of the antique/OGR area is new with smaller plants and I distinctly remember wild flowers and perennials covering the area just 3 years ago. The tea section has quite small and medium sized plants for what we expect of teas. But then, I think they also prune them quite a bit.

  • 5 years ago

    It’s nice that the Owen displays historical roses! Wild flowers are wonderful, but old roses are rare things in public spaces. I honestly think it might be worth a call to check on that mystery Tea rose. I love a good mystery! Carol

  • 5 years ago

    Your rose photos from the garden are AMAZING! I’ve been curious about Gruss an Aachen... I think I may have the sport Pink Gruss an Aachen... otherwise known as Irene Watts rose.

  • 5 years ago

    Ann, funny that you should mention Irene Watts. Those photos I attached above are Odee Pink Tea which some authorities suggest may be Irene Watts. Carol