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These Plants Are Tough

5 years ago
last modified: 5 years ago

Exactly what the title says, a little discussion concerning what some would consider hopeless situations. I hope some of you will also contribute as to your experiences as it may help other to recover a cherished plant.

These two pictures are of a hoya australis I was given with a batch of noids. It was in sad shape initially, and proceeded to decline over the winter. It was initially in a propagation box I made out of a tote bin, a saran wrap top and a heating mat on the bottom. It sat in a glass full of leca, filled with water. I also tried the snake oil called superthrive, which I had laying around. It never did well and continued to drop leaves. I didn't have the heart to throw it away as I will never stop fighting for something wanted it to live as opposed to having to purchase one. this was a freebee and it was going to make it!

Eventually every leave shriveled up and on some stems, they all fell off. I wasn't ready to quit just yet. Come summer, it was moved into the GH, where it just sat - virtually dead. Then the other day, after watering and misting it every day along with all the others, I noticed, on one "dead" stem, a small leaf starting. Hooray! That stem is trying to live, and I'm sure it will. The other stem still has a bunch of dead leaves attached, but I believe with continual care, it too may decide to send out a leaf. Time will tell but I will not give up!

That was a shriveled up dried out peduncle probably a year or two old, but above it is new growth!


This is another stem of the same plant I cut up (you can see the stem from above in the background of this image). It's leaves have long since dried up and the vine has shriveled too, exactly like the other one above. It will continue to reside in the leca as I believe it too wants to live and hopefully I'll start to see growth on this one as well.


My point here is these plants are tough. don't be too quick to give up on them. On any plants for that matter. I've had bromeliads I've left outside the entire winter, frozen solid, and come summer, they started to send up new growth. I have a ponytail palm, had it for years and it was over six feet tall. I forgot about it one year and it too froze solid for days and months on end. I chopped the entire plant top off, right down to the stump, and left it alone. After several months, I saw a tiny bit of growth and now it's filled out better than the original! I'll take a picture of it later today and post it as well.

The moral of this story - don't give up. Our plants don't, and neither should we.

Now - let's hear from all of you....

Comments (19)

  • 5 years ago

    Congrats on your survivor! That's awesome! :+)


    I have too many stories to pick one to tell (probably again, I would have posted something around this site at the time), but as a general observation, plants that don't wilt when thirsty have the best chance of surviving a drought, and seem to be the best candidates to successfully propagate as a means of saving what's left from an instance of rotting roots (or in the extreme drought situation, roots that have shriveled and died from extreme drought).


  • 5 years ago

    Bill, what a great thread and story. I love that when many plants survive after everything even when we just hope they do well after looking completely dead.

    I remember one of my jades dropping an entire piece off in the basement a couple years back. I brought all my plants up outside that summer and did not notice that cutting until the fall when I brought all of them in again and in the dark dusty corner on my basement, it held on and sprouted roots after it almost shriveled up. It's now a thriving plant. A pic to come soon.

    Bill M. thanked Meyermike(Zone 6a Ma.)
  • 5 years ago

    You sir win the award for "never give up"! There should be such an award for plant people. We have all had those sticks that get relegated to a corner or outdoors and then dang if they don't decide to resurrect themselves.

  • 5 years ago

    Mike - have your Jade plants bloomed? I have one that has to be maybe 30 years old. It's bloomed a couple of times for me but it seems to do it on it's own, not something I can say I contributed to. Now Snake plants - they bloom reliably for me every year. I even have some in bloom now! I own several different types and they are reliable bloomers. In fact, one of them, Fernwood I think the name is, or something along those lines, it grows like a weed and blooms profusely too.


    Mike - I also placed the Ponderosa lemon outside. It gets full sun maybe 6-7 hours a day. I keep it moist now after just repotting it. I haven't seen any new growth yet, but I would expect something in a week or so to begin showing up. I will keep you posted.

  • 5 years ago

    Found the old discussion I was thinking about! It's on a different site. I still have almost all of the plants I posted there. https://garden.org/thread/view/30255/Whats-your-best-back-from-the-dead-plant-s/


    I said it there & I'll say it again with more experience behind it, putting a struggling plant in the ground while it's warm enough outside usually gets a plant back to vigorous health.


    And some things, like most vines, aren't worth the trouble of repotting if they get tired & unhappy, just snip everything & start new. If it's early enough in the season to bother, you can plunk the old root ball into the ground and it should send a whole new crop of vines to harvest.

  • 5 years ago

    Hi Bill, yes all of them at one point or another depending on how I treat them. One in particular flowers evert year. It's quite unique and can not be found in this country unless someone I shared cuttings with will share it or ask me for a cutting. It is over 39 years old and very very colorful all year long. It's a noid and no one ever gave it a name. It seems our noids are some of the best plants we have, right? I will find a pic from last fall and share it here if that is ok with you.)

    Bill, which snake plant flowers for you? I never have luck with those flowering for me. You must give them high light? Any nicely fragrant ones? you know me. Ha

    Really? That sounds like great conditions for that ponderosa...Don't forget to fertilize it and use vinegar often if you are not using rain water. It will keep that tree green and well fed. You should see blossoms real soon. I am still waiting for mine.

    Darn, I wish I could post pics off my computer when posting here, but I have to use my phone for that. What a pain. I will post a pic of that little tree too for you)

    Bill, in case you did not know,

    Tiffany has been such a staple here for great advice and beautiful plants for years. A real pro in my eyes and for her to take the time to visit us, is just awesome. Enjoy her company while you can as I always do.

    Tiffany, happy to see you a part of this forum and the citrus one too. Fragrant too.

  • 5 years ago

    Mike - your ponderosa looks to be about the same size as mine (actually my sons). It does seem to enjoy the sun. I still have that second stem that I need to decide what to do with. It looks like Logees clipped it for themselves to propagate. I will probably let it grow out for a few inches then clip it again to propagate it for myself! you mentioned vinegar - why? What does it do and what ratio? Any particular type?


    I really like that jade plant - the colors are incredible. If I ever see one like it around here I'll be sure to pick up a plant.


    The snake plants all bloom. I have no idea what types they are as I've collected them for years. There is one that creeps, Fernwood I think? Another with cylindrical leaves, another tiny one with small round leaves, the common ones found in every store (that one is in a huge pot. I need a hand truck to move it around. It must weigh 50+ pounds dry!) Another called moon something or other and several others. They all bloom reliably and all drip nectar! I've never had seeds form though.


    As you can see - I grow them for the enjoyment and their leaves. Names aren't too important to me since I don't sell them.

  • 5 years ago

    Thank you for your kind comments, Mike! Good to "see" you!! :) That Jade of yours with the pink edges is spectacular - and the other one is right there with it.

  • 5 years ago

    Mike, I love that first jade. Is it a variegated Blue Bird? Mine are still pretty small.

  • 5 years ago

    I have a good example. Dieffenbachia. Here it is looking gorgeous in 2018.


    Everything went well until it came inside for winter in fall of '19. I had put it in a big wire thing that it loved because I was watering it a lot but it was airy all around. It was hard to find something to put under that when it came inside so I was watering in little sips in the middle. I know, right! Of course, that resulted in shriveling at the base of every stem. I put it in a corner to dry out & I was going to do cuttings but I forgot all about it. Some things got stored in front of it for a time, and I found last fall, 2020, looking for something. I was surprised that the stems were still green. I figured I might as well try and all of the stems took root, about 9 of them. Here's one I put in the ground until it gets too cold:



    I gave a couple away, and the rest are in various pots.



  • 5 years ago

    Tiffany, makes ya feel good when they recover doesn't it?

  • 5 years ago

    Absolutely!

  • 5 years ago

    This is a Hoya globulosa that was unhappy and it’s three leaves yellowed and died. I took it out of the grow tent, tried to almost neglect watering, and kept it in lower light. Soon I noticed four new growth points, put it back in the grow tent, and now it has a growing green leaf. Hopefully this time I can keep it happy.





  • 5 years ago

    That puppy will not only survive, it will thrive in that tent. Keep us posted on its progress. Best of luck to you both.

  • 5 years ago

    Where was I when you all asked me questions or even added to this thread? My e-mail never notified me Ugh

    I will be back.

    If any of you want a cutting of any of my jades let me know, ok.

    And Bill,

    Bill, I use vinegar to acidify my watering solution which will make all the nutrients in my fertilizer available because my water , tap is much to high in pH not allowing the nutrients to be taken up at times. Acidifying your water safely makes them available and your trees do cart wheels.

  • 5 years ago

    I use rainwater Mike. Does that need vinegar too? If so, what ratio? Thanks.

    BTW, I enjoyed speaking with you the other day.

    Stay well my friend.

  • 5 years ago
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    Bill, sometimes I use use it anyway for the reason that it does no harm at the ration I use. But if I use rainwater, and drench the plants, I use at least a tablespoon in a gallon at once. Our mixes are very porous so we have the luxury to do that without rot or salt residue damage)

    Stay well too))

  • 5 years ago

    Globulosa update photos: so far, so good



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