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Feeling discouraged

5 years ago

Went through the effort of planting new fruit trees earlier this spring, some of which suffered damage from the extreme temp swings we had and ended up toast. Got a few replacement trees, all going well even in the crazy high winds and torrential rains a few days ago. I go out there this evening to find that the *%!*#! deer ate almost every.blasted.leaf off a beautiful Black Tartarian cherry. Broke some branches too. I wanted to cry. But it's too hot and miserably humid to expend the effort. They nibbled at the other trees but they must have gotten their fill on that one and went somewhere to nap it off before deciding to strip those too. I sprayed all the trees down with Liquid Fence. DH doesn't have time to set up tall fences around them right now, I'm just going to have to keep up with the spraying for now and hope it staves them off until he gets around to it. None of the other trees that have been there since spring had any damage but all of a sudden in one night BAM! And something's going on with one of the other cherries, oozing gum all over the place from the trunk and the branches. Gee whiz already...


I'm having so much trouble with fruit trees, I'm just about ready to throw my hands up in defeat and stick with the small fruits like berries and grapes -- at least that is going well.


The ironic thing is there are two big old mature scrub apple trees that I don't do anything with, and they flower and fruit beautifully. Sigh...

Comments (16)

  • 5 years ago

    gummosis on the cherry ...


    https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffcm&q=gummosis&iax=images&ia=images


    its on my peach tree also ...


    ken

  • 5 years ago

    I know what gummosis is -- but I don't know what's causing it in these newly planted trees. Could be any number of things, none of which are making me feel encouraged.

  • 5 years ago

    but I don't know what's causing it


    ==>>> the tree probably came with it. .. its endemic to stone fruit trees .... and as far as i am concerned.. there is nothing you can do about it ...


    i would try to come up with some medical analogy... but im a bit dull this morning ... lol .. dull in affect and mood as the dsm used to say ....


    ken



  • 5 years ago

    Who is dsm?


    Who knows, could be any number of things -- insects, disease, mechanical damage. The one peach tree I can blame on DH because he nicked it with the tractor, but no clue what's causing all the oozing on the cherry. I don't even want to look at those trees right now...





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    So sorry, mxk3, I know first hand how frustrating it is dealing with those insatiable beasts. And the wild temperature swings of Michigan weather! To my surprise, Liquid Fence hasn’t been working for me this year (last year’s bottle); I ended up purchasing Bobbex from Amazon and it’s been working well so far, for the deer at least. The groundhogs are eating my petunias and echinacea regardless, though, ugh.

  • 5 years ago

    The groundhogs are eating my petunias


    ==>>> sounds like groundhogs might solve gals issue with slugs on petunia ...


    dsm is a medical diagnostic book ...


    ken

  • 5 years ago

    Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association.

  • 5 years ago

    Ha ha, Ken, I’d be happy to give her every single one of my groundhogs - the OG and all of its progeny - from when I first noticed the cute (but horrid) creatures several years ago. They’ve expanded from my back acreage and gotten homey right by my house behind some landscaping boulders. I’ve pretty much had it with all of God’s creatures, great and small, this year.

  • 5 years ago
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    One deer deterrent for the short term is to put in some posts and then zigzag 70 lb clear fishing line between the posts. Deer have poor 3D vision, so they cannot determine exactly where it is if it is not in a straight line, so IME they will not try to jump it because they aren’t sure of a safe landing spot. Easier than fence, both to install and remove. I put mine on t posts, in perhaps an hour to install posts and line at three heights to protect a holly hedge that was an area of 20’x60’.

  • 5 years ago

    Yeah deer ugh. I planted a new peach tree last year and have kept a 5' fence around it for protection. All the young fruit trees need help until they get too tall for the deer to reach.


    NHBabbs, that sting trick really works well around my veggies gardens. I use 10' rebar (8' high in ground) as posts for the string.

  • 5 years ago

    I have a tree that the rats with antlers have eaten 90% of the leaves last week at camp. It is about 7 ft tall. I just got done yesterday in this heat putting netting over it. The post with the fishing line that NHbabs suggested does work. I have used it before on a smaller cherry tree.

  • 5 years ago

    Thank you, NHBabs! That might be a quick stopgap measure until we have time to get fencing up.

  • 5 years ago

    I make these cages out of farm fencing- it's very easy, just some tin snips and a pound in t-post for support. Maybe some ground staples if it's an area you don't check often. I'm a little old lady and can 'build' and install them alone just fine.



  • 5 years ago

    What Cearbhail said! I've put up dozens of those fences and they are very easy to install. You don't need special equipment, just some heavy duty wire cutters. You can make them free standing or use metal fence stakes to securely position the bigger ones. You can attach them with wire twists or plastic zip ties. You can make them so you can open them up by creating a hooked closure with the wire. The only downside is the fencing is expensive, but it lasts forever. Use it at the beginning when the growth is especially delicious to deer. It's unsightly but eventually it blends into the background. So worth it.


    We are getting daily rain in MI. I think that is part of the problem with the liquid animal repellents. Despite what the bottles claim, they do get washed away/diluted . . .

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    for tbar posts or rebar.. a pounder inner is a good investment ... ken

    https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/speeco-post-driver-post-pounder-speeco-deluxe-s1611051tsc

    this is how a protected a yellow oak back in the day ... im not sure you wills see the fish line .. in fact i dont think is was there in this pic



    remnants of line in this pic