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New thread on Summer Citrus Grafting

5 years ago
last modified: 5 years ago

I thought I would start a new thread on summer grafting (for citrus). I'm thinking summer is a really good time to graft in my region. Summers are not scorching like in the south, but nice and warm (including nights) so the plants are still actively growing. Humidity is generally high. Days are long.

Here’s the Panzarella orange chip bud I grafted onto Sour Orange about three weeks ago . In this shot I think I can detect the bud swelling already. I did a small gash in bark above the graft after a little over 2 weeks, which you can see. The Sour Orange really, really wants to grow. I've been rubbing off every new sprout as they appear.



Here's the graft after just two more days. It's definitely swelling:



The chip bud is one of the the graft types that I have had really good success with. I tried T-budding where you peel the bark, but I usually end up making such a mess of the bark if it doesn't peel cleanly. Plus chip budding is easier to do on smaller size rootstocks. To help stabilize the chip bud graft, I like making that little flap at the bottom of the rootstock cut. It helps to hold the chip in place while wrapping and also gives another surface to fuse with the chip. I like to use Buddy Tape for wrapping. It's 1" wide and perforated so you can easily tear off small portions while in the middle of the process.


I've also had good luck with veneer grafts. This one has contact for about two inches:



Comments (41)

  • 5 years ago

    I have done 4 grafts this summer. 2 PT grafts on a sour orange rootstock and 2 Valentine pomelo buds each on its own sour orange tree.

    2 grafts on sour orange. The lower one died.

    This is the surviving upper bud.


    Valentine pomelo on sour orange. 1 survives 1 dies

    Steve

    Dave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A thanked poncirusguy6b452xx
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    Nice-sized root stock Steve! The larger the root stock, the faster the scion will grow.

  • 5 years ago

    These sour orange trees are 3.5 years old.

    Steve

    Dave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A thanked poncirusguy6b452xx
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    Coming along. This is 28 days after graft date. This plant will outgrow a rooted cutting.


  • 5 years ago
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    About 30 days:


  • 5 years ago
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    Just bought a new 'Flame' plant from Madison Citrus and it was really tall. So I chopped it back and used the excess plant material to make a few more grafts. 'Flame' grapefruit grafted onto Flying Dragon 7 days ago. Still green so far. I find Flying Dragon to be not so vigorous as Poncirus hybrid stock, so grafts are slower to take.



  • 5 years ago
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    Looking nice Dave. I made a new graft placing a bud on my last of 3 sour oranges



    Steven

  • 5 years ago

    Steve, you do so well getting that bark to peel!

  • 5 years ago

    To slip bark after slitting I use a Wendy's plastic knife and pinch the knife against the tree side with my finger on the knife and thumb on the tree. Squeeze slowly till there is a small gap. I clean my hands and under my finger nails with 20% bleach and tooth brush. The rest of the slipping is done with my finger nails. Broke over my trees.

    Steve

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    Man, with the size of those root stocks, those grafts should really take off! I think your method probably helps keep the scion bud from drying out in case it's not wrapped perfectly. I usually do at least two layers of Buddy Tape over the bud.

  • 5 years ago

    Looking good.

    Steve

    Dave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A thanked poncirusguy6b452xx
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    7-20-21 day 29 Valentine pomelo bud on Sour orange is expanding.


  • 5 years ago

    Healthy bud there Steve!


  • 5 years ago

    Unwrapped my 11 month ago approach graft on Meiwa kumquat to replace it's Kuharske Citrange with Flying Dragon rootstock,



  • 5 years ago

    Dr. Frankenstein?

  • 5 years ago

    So, I've had mixed success this spring. Three of 5 grafts took. Unfortunately, the wild weather removed my scion tags, but I'm pretty sure the ones that took were my Owari. I'll know in a week or two as the buds are pushing leaves. A single graft is on FD rootstock.




    Two (one on top and the other on bottom) is on one of my Cara Cara.



    Cicadas were a pest on quite a few of my trees (finally starting to kill branches this past week). I had netting on quite a few trees, but had difficulty in keeping the pots upright in heavy storm winds we had, so had to remove netting at points. One of my rootstocks that had two scions grafted got his pretty bad on the main stem. The below is a Moro, that got tagged on a few branches and the main stem. So far, this is the only branch that I had to clip.


    Thankful that the hordes only come every 17 years!


    -ken

  • 5 years ago

    Congratulations ken

  • 5 years ago

    Good going Ken! I found citrus stems to heal fairly quickly from cicada damage, but maybe damage will occur later on. We'll see. Nasty scourge.

  • 5 years ago

    Thanks Steve, Dave. I've got quite a bit of cicada damage on my in ground fruit trees (in particular my pears but also some persimmon). Lots of branch tips dying off on the hardwoods (oaks and maples throughout the neighborhood).


    But counting my blessings since it could have been worse with all the bugs!

    -k

  • 5 years ago

    Wow Dave, this is exactly the kind of thread I need to better have a chance at trying this. So clearly shown and easy to understand)) Thank you

    Dave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A thanked Meyermike(Zone 6a Ma.)
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    Day 39. I'm starting to cut back the root stock a bit more every couple days as long as the scion is growing well.


  • 5 years ago
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    Looking really good Dave.

    Just unwrapped my PT T-Bud graft to sour orange. This is my 3rd and final PT to Seville graft



    14 days from grafting. I will cover it up with clear wrap and start exposing it to light.


  • 5 years ago

    new grafting tonight 7-28-21

    Fukushu on flying dragon.

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    Fukushu on flying dragon.

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    Fukushu on flying dragon.

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    Fukushu on flying dragon.

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    New Zealand lemonade mature bud on New Zealand lemonade seedling rootstock

    Steve

  • 5 years ago

    You'll soon be running out of space!

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    I already ran out of space but most of my trees are large enough to winter over in a cool mildly light basement room. The trees I am grafting are all rootstock. I have them whether I graft them or not. They are heavy so I am giving them away to people locally that will take care of them.

    8-2-21 shoot is 6 inches long and growing well but much less robust than any of my New Zealand lemonade trees on sour orange.

    Steve

  • 5 years ago

    Above is budded over at 10 inches and needs to lignify. My PT on sour orange is now growing good at almost an inch long.

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    Fukushu on PT

    Fukushu on PT

    Fukushu on PT

    Fukushu on PT

    New Zealand lemonade on NZL seedling. (own roots)

  • 5 years ago
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    Day 62 (approximately). Panzarella orange onto sour orange rootstock. Rootstock has been cut off above graft now. Scion is just beginning to branch at the top.



  • 5 years ago

    Your tree is growing very nicely.

    I just grafted 2 Fukushu buds to my Poncirus trifoliata grafted to Seville sour orange.



    Steve

  • 4 years ago
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    Day 90. Panzarella orange on sour orange rootstock. The plant is starting to branch already.




  • 4 years ago

    Looking good Dave. I have only a close idea when I grafted mine. My record keeping is nothing to write home about. One of the buds of my Fukushu on Poncirus Trifoliata on Seville sour is drying up.

    Steve

  • 4 years ago

    Steve, it's not hard to write the date on a label when you graft it. I include the name of the rootstock, since i have several.

  • 4 years ago

    I have hand nerve problems that make writing near impossible. I can't control tools like pencils.

  • 4 years ago

    Steve, it's amazing you do so well with grafts then! Sorry to hear that.

  • 4 years ago

    Dave Grafting is hard too. I use clean sterile thumb nails to lift bark instead of a knife I can't control and I make the cuts with a serrated steak knife I just push in for the horizontal and I saw with same to make the vertical. My failure rate is less than 50% instead of tool using 97% failure. This years grafts that are doing well.

    Valentine pomelo on sour orange

    Rootstock trunk tall enough to stop handle from hitting graft.

    Poncirus trifoliata on Seville sour

    PT/Seville graft date.

    Mature NZL grafted to seedling NZL.

    Steve

  • 4 years ago


    Valentine pomelo on Seville Graft is 7 inches high out of 35 inches tall with a 15 inch branch. makes for 43 inches of total growth. Grafted on 6-22-21 for 94 days growth I had to stuff a steel rod up its, , to straighten it out.

    Steve

  • 4 years ago

    Really good growth for grafting just this June!

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    My 2 buds of Fukushu kumquat on Poncirus Trifoliata which is grafted to Seville sour have expanding today




    Steve

  • 4 years ago

    10-7-21


    Steve

  • 4 years ago

    Great progress Steve!


  • 4 years ago

    10-17-21 9 days later



    Growth has started to take off..

    Steve