Even expensive sofa beds are just plain awful to sleep on. But they occupy the least amount of square footage. A wall bed a.k.a Murphy bed has the advantage of being a piece of furniture with shelves and storage and even a dining table. At night, you pull down a REAL mattress of your choice. You can leave your bed made and store pillows without any hassle.

But I just stumbled on a combination wall bed and sofa. This is from a company that manufactures wall beds. You might check this out. https://www.wallbedsbywilding.com/sofa-murphy-bed/?utm_campaign=West&utm_source=CPC&utm_term=&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjo2JBhCRARIsAFG667WsAZcYt5g4URIIaSQPKRvyt9IO5xUXAMC-Mlb2ozYFUZ1BAF1rTEQaArTxEALw_wcB

I have seen a modern sectional that rearranges into a bed but cannot seem to find it now. There are some other creative day-to-night combinations.

I would recommend finding free 30 day trials before you buy.

I don't know your budget but saving space is pricey.

Another classic approach would be some kind of loft, which would allow most of the floor space to stay as living room, presuming that the residents would sometimes like to be someplace other than in their bedrooms...

Thank you all- these are great suggestions and we have looked at the option of bed pull down over the couch. The company that we have found from what we can tell (prices are not published online) is outrageously expensive. I found Ikea Rognan robotic furniture design from 2019 which they were going to start in Japan and Hong Kong, but I can find nothing about it being sold in the US or even if they went beyond concept design. It is less expensive than a lot of options and looks very effective. I agree that a pull out couch mattress is not necessarily desirable and it’s not that effective to use that as a nightly bed (versus occasional guest bed). Budget is a consideration even though this is such an important part to ones home!

Have you considered something like the Hemnes daybed? It fits a standard Twin mattress, has huge drawers for storage and the “trundle” pulls out when needed to fit another Twin resulting in an almost King sized sleeping surface. Only downside is that the mattresses don’t hide away with the trundle so we have the slim IKEA Meistervik ones that just stack.

Murphy bed with real mattress, hands down more comfortable than almost any sofa bed.

Will the bed be used by occasional guests or regularly by someone living in the household? If the latter, I would definitely look for some of the solutions like @Patricia Colwell Consulting is suggesting because it is so important to get a good nights sleep and pull out sofas are rarely comfortable for sitting or sleeping.

Consider sharing a drawing of the layout of the space with measurements. There are some really great minds on here that might be able to make some layout suggestions that would allow you to have a foldaway bed and still have the space useable.

@pricklypearcactus Thank you so much for this suggestion- I wouldn’t have thought of posting drawings. so, here I am posting drawing renditions of the apartment. This living room turned bedroom is marked as “Bedroom 2”. It is 127sqft. And it’s also marked in one of the drawings with a translucent sliding partition. It most definitely is for someone living in the household and will be used nightly. :) I know this poses many challenges, but so far the suggestions have been great! I hadn’t even thought of a loft bed idea… It’s for two adults so would need to be a Queen size bed… Keep the ideas coming and thank you all! I realize to large house owners this might sound like I’m speaking a unique, foreign language. Did she say 127sqft?! Yes, indeed. Welcome to apartment living. ;)

Air mattress for guest space? Air mattress as Murphy bed mattress?

Several days ago I saw a adult sized bean chair that converts to a bed. Would whichever guests might be visiting overnight be able to use one of those?

https://www.groupon.com/deals/gg-corduroy-convertible-beanbag-chair-bed-full-sleeper

Totally agree with apple_pie_order -- real mattress (for Murphy bed) is best (IF it is a quality mattress) -- far better than any sofa bed or trundle bed .

There are now light weight MemoryFoam mattress that are reasonably comfortable ... at least atop a box spring ... for under $200 -- relative has one and likes it; however I don't know if the box spring vs a platform might make a difference.

Don't know your style, but this is a great way to insert a "bedroom" where there is none. No need to labor over opening/closing any auxiliary bed. It has storage beneath and could be positioned on the N/S axis of your bedroom 2. If you can move your TV to an articulated arm in the right corner, you'll be able to put a sofa against the "bedroom" wall. Imagine if the sofa below were backed up under the three pieces of art. Appears simple to make using whitewashed lathe. You could stain or paint any color, but this keeps the room light and airy.

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As the new area will be for 2 people, I think the murphy bed idea would be a great solution.

If you go on Youtube you can see it can be accomplished with minimal cost. No need to spend bit bucks for this. It would also be nice for the 2 people to have their own quiet space when the bed is in the up position, away from the rest of the occupants.

There are lots of ways to make a room dividider. Were you going to do a permanent wall with door?

@Angel 18432 It will most likely be a four-panel sliding wall system.

One thing to consider is the legal limit to the number of occupants in the apartment. It varies by region. Check before constructing anything.

https://www.wayfair.ca/Red-Barrel-Studio--Thane-2-Piece-Murphy-Bed-Set-X112882156-L12-K~C001760066.html?refid=GX433576790097-C001760066_512170897_512170988&device=c&ptid=886024968889&targetid=pla-886024968889&network=g&ireid=79961643&PiID%5B%5D=512170988&PiID%5B%5D=512170897&gclid=Cj0KCQjwsZKJBhC0ARIsAJ96n3VD6I0ZTS7Am0FzXp5m8rG3sHm3vXPTR6DGd8QVF8dGbGTJSnHZFHQaAghNEALw_wcB

This is a bed and sofa in one.

@apple_pie_order. Thanks for the heads up- Oh believe me, where I’m located everything is inspected down to the minutia- all workers are licensed and workers don’t even step foot inside a space until the Department of Building approves everything and has permit numbers etc… The sliding door system is a temporary system that doesn’t touch the floor and is completely open and removable. Many people build temporary pressurized walls and this is not even in that category.

People think HOA's are a nightmare. My friend also lives in a condo and it is unbelievable

what they can and cannot do inside their own unit. Everything has to be approved before they can even "sneeze" LOL and they can only use condo corp's list of "approved" tradespeople.

You sure you couldn’t fit a sofa at the end of a regular bed like decoenhusiaste posted? Even if the back of the sofa was against foot of the bed

Put headboard on 9 foot back wall

Do you want the "extra" people to have their own sitting space, or are you ok with all of you sitting in the same area? If you are fine with all sitting together in living space then Decos idea of a bed with a dividing wall would be the simpliest thing to do. Then your floating divider could be pulled over at night to provide privacy, but would be able to use the space in the daytime.

@Lisa - so you’re saying that like decoenthusiaste’s photos, but the sofa could be backed up to the foot of the bed barrier and the white table?

@Angel- yes that’s the idea that the space would be living room by day- but with the floating sliding divider “wall” if someone wanted privacy during the day, they would
just close off that space. But mostly the sliding doors would be open and it would act like a living room until it becomes a bedroom, basically at night. so yes decoenthusiaste’s idea does provide the bed to be basically tucked out of eyesight… “looks” like a living room most of the time.
@decoenthusiaste, do you know where to purchase a divider like that? or probably east to construct I would think as it’s very simple.
Thank you all for your ideas!! Trying to figure it out. Yes @Angel, apartment condo and Coop rules are just beyond what someone can imagine who isn’t familiar with it or knows someone who deals with it. Ahhhh

Yes!! The bed as a queen is 5 feet long. The room is 13 feet long. Plenty of room.

@Lisa ok. Got it. I’m not sure where to
find the type of bed divider “enclosure”. Maybe constructing it oneself is the easiest?

Maybe something like this. Buy a bookcase set up from Ikea and have the movable walls behind it. Walls will act as a back for bookcase.

@Angel. Their space looks nice… but ha! We had something very similar to that and totally got rid of it! Gave the Ikea bookcase away happily. It was just too big and bulky and really wasn’t the best use of the space. With the sliding partition “wall”, it will
change the configuration but oh it’s still hard to figure out. 😕

Yu can buy really nice wooden slat room dividers and leave at the foot of the bed. Something like this affixed to something in the floor so it doesn’t move

If your budget is a concern and if you are at all DIY inclined, then, instead of going "fancy" with your Murphy bed, you might consider creating a "closet" with a pair of bi-fold doors sized to hold a mattress and metal bed frame (and platform or several support boards standing on its end) -- or even on its side of a countertop without traditional cabinets beneath it that height could prove useful in that space?

Can you post a pic of your "dining room" -- dining space and a "to scale" with measurements (graph paper) drawing of the space with windows and doors and any other fixed features that must remain in the space ? Is there room to move your table/chairs elsewhere whenever the bed is needed if you make a solid wall in that room/space

Thanks suezbelle- the drawings I attached show the space which includes “bedroom 2” and living/dining space. we won’t make a solid wall as it isn’t per code of the building and so if we do a partition it would be the “temporary wall” sliding panels. We are leaning towards the murphy convertible sofa murphy bed as it will allow a sofa and facility of pull down murphy bed.

@Patricia Colwell Consulting- we are leaning towards getting a similar 3 in 1- sofa to murphy bed convertible. it would have more narrow shelves on either side of the bed and would have couch so as to not take up more space with a couch and a bed… we’ll see! But this seems to make the most sense for the space. thanks for suggestion!