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Aluminum Windows Recommendations?

4 years ago

We're in the process of choosing windows for our new home construction in Portland OR area. We'll have a decent amount of large windows and doors, so getting the windows and doors right will be important.



I'm leaning towards thermally broken aluminum windows and doors - I believe they are better suited than vinyl for the large sizes (for thermal expansion reasons), and I just don't like the look/feel of vinyl. I may change my mind, but at this point this is my preference.


The field of US made thermally broken Tilt and Turn aluminum windows seems much narrower than for vinyl windows, so already it's an uphill battle. We did get quotes from a few dealers, but the windows they would be supplying are Mito, Aluprof, or Alipast. As far as I can tell, none of them are listed with NFRC, and our building department said that an NFRC sticker would be required. The window dealers said they haven't had an issue with this, they just provide a thermal performance report - but I don't want to risk having a truckload of windows rejected after construction. We're also awaiting quotes from Reynaers, which is NFRC listed.


I'm wondering if there are other manufacturers of aluminum tilt and turn windows that I haven't considered that are NFRC listed? Or if the window dealers are correct and I should be fine with non-NFRC listed windows? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Comments (15)

  • 4 years ago

    Arcadia, Fleetwood, Western all make T/B Aluminum for starters.

    tupi2020 thanked millworkman
  • 4 years ago

    Thanks, I'll check them out. Where do these stand on the "quality" scale compared to Reynaers, Zola, Alpen, etc? My previous search of Fleetwood found very poor ratings.

  • 4 years ago

    Good windows, Reynaers is a European window and very good quality, Zola is essentially a knockoff European window that I am not up on quality, Alpen is a crap shoot from what I know as they have been thru several iterations and changed hands a few times. Fleetwood gets used here on Long Island in gets good reviews as a whole.

    tupi2020 thanked millworkman
  • 4 years ago

    @millworkman Thank you, I'll work on getting a few bids from Reynaers, Alpen, and KNEER-SÜDFENSTER. Zola's lead times are too long these days.

  • tupi2020 thanked dan1888
  • 4 years ago

    @dan1888 Thanks Dan - I don't see an English version, but I will see if my German speaking wife can help figure it out.

  • 4 years ago

    Lucky you. I used Google translate to do it.

  • 4 years ago

    We've been very happy with Pella. Not sure if they are NFRC listed, but it appears they are. Nice thing about Pella is one can have aluminum on the outside and very pleasant and warm-looking wood on the inside. They are also a US domestic company and I'll bet prices are lower than European makers? We fitted out an average-to-above-average sized house (5500 sq ft) with many huge Pella windows and about 15 4' x 8' glass doors and stationary doors and are very pleased. Depending on sun exposure each window got a different SHGC and related differences. We're in colder climate than Portland (Rocky Mountains).


    https://www.pella.com/support/performance-information/

    tupi2020 thanked Jeff Smith
  • 4 years ago

    Personally I would steer clear of anything Pella at all costs. Just my .02..................

  • 4 years ago

    @Jeff Smith Steve, thank you for your suggestions, I'm glad you had a good experience with Pella.


    However my reading on the forum and other places gave me the same impression about them as @millworkman said, that folks have a lot of problems with Pella.


    I chatted with a rep for Kneer-Sudfenster yesterday, he's working up a quote for us. He suggested that we also consider their aluminum clad wood windows, in addition to the all-aluminum ones, so I asked him to quote both options (he said wood/aluminum would be cheaper than all aluminum). I didn't consider wood/aluminum because we don't want a wood finish on the inside, but he said that they can be painted in any color, so I figured why not. Are there any significant differences between wood/aluminum vs all-aluminum that I should be aware of?

  • 4 years ago

    Wood clad would typically have larger, thicker sightlines as the window is mainly wood structurally with an aluminum cladding. Make certain that they use a true extruded aluminum for their cladding.

  • 4 years ago

    Good point about the thicker sightlines, I think we prefer to minimize those. I'll report back after we get some quotes, hopefully that will help us decide.

  • 4 years ago

    Any updates?

  • 4 years ago

    Hello. I am designing a new contemporary home in the Portland area that will utilize large aluminum framed glass systems including multi slide doors. What did you find in your research? I am looking at Fleetwood, Western, Styline, possibly Golbrecht, Raynaers. Cost vs quality will be important as well as glass.