Jerijen I was just commenting in another thread about Cochet. Id like to grow her in my garden how beautiful. I'm hoping she will like the hot humidity of eastern Oklahoma. I miss Washington a bit there were so many gardens to see full plants and get an idea of how it grows and behaves.

No idea at all. I've actually been to Eastern OK, and I don't think 2 places could be more different. But I think it does well in Florida, FW that's worth.

Jeri, there you go, tempting us again with goodies we can't have, lol.

@Seeingreen I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the ancestry of Remembering Cochet doesn't give much hope it would be hardy in Z7. RC is not a Cochet hybrid, rather a modern hybrid introduced in 2010, named in honor of the Cochet family. It was bred by M.S. "Viru" Viraraghaven using a tea noisette (Reve D'or), a hybrid tea (Carmosine), and Rosa gigantea. The first is only borderline hardy in Z7 (trust me, I know), Carmosine is only hardy here with protection, and R.gigantea is very tender, only hardy to Z8b. Unless RC is a freakish defier of genetics, it too is probably only hardy to Z8, possibly Z7b. It might survive with a monumental effort to winter protect, but...yikes.

I've coveted RC since I first saw it, but have not tried it even though I tend to zone push *quite* a bit. It is absolutely one of the most lovely modern roses. I want it sooo badly. But reality has to set in at some point. I'm afraid it would just be heartache, not to mention a waste of money.

John

EDIT: I forgot to mention that the real Cochet hybrids do quite well for me. As a matter of fact, Cl Maman Cochet has been in an unprotected 30 gallon pot on my patio for at least five years, merrily climbing up the side of my chimney.

What a beauty

My problem is, I've only been to OK in spring and summer. The lengthiest visit in a scorching mid-July. I should have considered that winter would be another kettle of fish. Particularly these days.

Thanks John for the bit of history and info on zone hardiness. I didn't realize the above mentioned wasn't even related though it is tantalizingly beautiful. Thanks for also sharing your experiance with the rose I think I would like to try White Mamam Cochet. It sounds promising. I really wish there were some local gardens when the whole plant could be viewed. A small picture of just the bloom really leaves a lot out of the picture.

Jeri What part did you visit? I’m practically at the border of Arkansas and yes the summers are boling out here. winters are pretty wild, one day can be in the 70s and the next -2. Im betting harsh conditions for anything that has a hard time staying dormant.

I love your photos, Jeri!

My garden is so far from blooms that your title brought up a Cochet memory.

Where an improved road is now, used to be some houses and two different Cochet rose bushes, both about eight feet tall and five feet wide. Both pretty much ignored by their owners and treated as shrubs (not shrub roses).

The pink one was pretty, but available elsewhere. The white one, now that was the beauty with petals that no thrips wanted (and thrips from the surrounding hay fields were really bad that year.)

I asked permission to take a stem with root, and the woman looked worried. She said , "Honey, you're welcome to it, but we killed six small cottonmouths there this weekend and I really don't think we got all of them."

And that's what I think of when I see "Remembering Cochet."

OH, That's too bad Ann . . . Gosh.

Jerijen ooooh not air conditioning sounds horrible! I can imagin how miserable that would be. You Dalmations are beautiful, looks like the show when really well!

As for the beautiful rose pictures, thanks for sharing! Maman Cochet is a beautiful monster and I love mosters in the garden. I‘ve mostly been planting ramblers and old garden roses that have some height.

I wish I could find Remembering Cochet somewhere for sale.

Rose Petals Nursery, maybe???

I betcha they have it, tho I don't know that they've had it long enough to propagate it.

I looked at RPs Jeri, and they did not list it. Maybe I should call them.

Yeah, Sheila. I think they wouldn't list it until they had it mature enough to take cuttings.

@Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR Sheila, I could have sworn I'd seen RC listed at Roses Unlimited, but I don't see it now. You might want to call Pat, too. Also, Pat carries more of Viru's roses, all of which are mouth-wateringly lovely. As far as I know, RU has more of Viru's roses than any other nursery. Currently listed:

Ahimsa

Aussie Sixer

Coffee Country

Dixie Beauty

Faith Whittlesey

Helga’s Quest

Krishna’s Peach

Maura la Cava

Naga Belle

Pat Henry

Stan Henry

Tipu’s Flame

Twilight Secret

Twilight Tryst

That is so helpful, John.

I can tell you that 'Naga Belle' is a wonderful thing, that blooms its heart out almost all the time. I would thing that Exhibitors, in particular, would go crazy over it.

Aussie Sixer looks so wonderful too. I looked them all up and was charmed.