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4 years ago

I am very sad..... According to Coolroses.com Debbie and Geoff are selling their nursery here in West Palm Beach Florida......

They are one of only 3 nurseries that propagate on fortuniana rootstock.... And I saw that the other nursery lost a lot of their mother plants due to flooding.... and they will be selling some on own root instead.....

I know that Debbie and Geoff are hoping to sell it to someone who wants to continue the business and that Geoff said he would help the new people to learn..... I am sure he would. Debbie and Geoff are terrific people and I will be sad when they leave....

So if anybody knows of anybody who would like to keep a thriving business going.... and one where they would like to continue on with rooting on fortuninana root stock.... give them the info.

Right now I just so sad to be losing some great people .....

Comments (27)

  • 4 years ago

    They are very nice couple and I wish them the best luck.

  • 4 years ago

    What about Christopher who used to post here, had a parrot, and wanted to move to Florida?

  • 4 years ago

    @Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR i forget the details, but Christopher secured a job a few years ago with a park in NJ where he is the director of a large rose garden. He was also building a large antique rose collection in an historic cemetery, but not sure of the latest developments.

  • 4 years ago

    I do hope he sees this.

  • 4 years ago

    I thought Chris was a PHD student for some reason. Not sure where I got that idea. :-)

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    I just saw their listing on Zillow. They are asking $750,000, the property has 3 bds, 2 ba, 1 car garage, 2,604 sq ft, 1.06 acres. It has been on the market since Dec 29th last year. They might have priced it too high in today’s hot market,

  • 4 years ago

    Is that the business and inventory and the home?

  • 4 years ago

    Yes, Sheila it includes home, efficiency, equipment and inventory...... They also have a mist house for cuttings. The property is very beautiful. I think they use to raise a few chickens, It may have been listed this past December, but I don't think they were actively really wanting to sell. I think that was just feelers. No one in our rose society knew about it. She had me help to put it up on her website.


    I did not know how much they were selling it for, but that actually sounds reasonable for our area of the country just house and landwise..... I think that they really don't want to sell the home as a home without the business.... but would if they had to.... just my guess.... I think they really want rose people to continue on with what they created... They are willing to help new people.... It is a turnkey operation.... I am sure someone would love it if we can just get the info into the hands of someone who is wanting it.


  • 4 years ago

    That sounds like a low price if it were in the Boise area. Real estate is insanely priced around here. Diane

  • 4 years ago

    Sad to lose yet another nursery. Hopefully someone will take over and keep it going. As for that "other" nursery, which is K&M, they WILL still be selling Fortuniana grafted roses. It's just going to take awhile to get some inventory. Jim lost all his rootstock, and one of the ladies from a Facebook group sent him a bunch of virus-indexed Fortuniana rootstock from UC Davis in the Fall. He has now begun to propagate more rootstock off those earlier pieces and will start grafting soon. I think the goal is possibly to have grafted inventory by spring sometime. He is doing own root only so he has something to sell until then. Likely a lot of those are the Dave Bang minis. Don't give up on him. He's doing the best he can under the circumstances. He also had a lost of Covid go thru his family and staff, so he's basically working on his own.

  • 4 years ago

    I really think Christopher could handle this. Looks great to me. A parrot would love this. It looks very well kempt.

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    Whether or not it has anything to do with this couple's recent consideration of selling out the Miami area is in the process of being taken by the Atlantic Ocean - already individual rain showers are enough to cause geysers to immediately erupt from manholes because of constantly high water-tables below urban streets. With Miami itself having been undertaking the raising of city streets to the tune of something like 7 million dollars per block.

    There are 6,098 properties

    in West Palm Beach that have greater than a 26% chance of being severely affected

    by flooding over the next 30 years. This represents 20% of all properties in the city.

    In addition to damage on properties, flooding can also cut off access to utilities, emergency services, transportation, and may impact the overall economic well-being of an area. Overall,
    West Palm Beach has a major risk of flooding over the next 30 years, which means flooding is likely to impact day to day life within the community.

    West Palm Beach, Florida | Flood Factor

  • 4 years ago

    You are correct Diane.... this looks very reasonably priced.....


  • 4 years ago

    OTOH, Christopher could run it until the floods hit. Let's not be a Debbie Downer on the location. I wish someone could take over.

  • 4 years ago

    Where is Chris? He might be married and have a lot of kids by now.

  • 4 years ago

    Has this been posted over on the garden.org forum? I know that quite a few people jumped ship and went there a few years ago when Houzz was causing issues. I think Chris may have been one of those who left with the intent to not come back

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  • 4 years ago

    It is Florida. I admit I am not a Florida person, but Christopher had wanted to go. It was his dream.

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    I think the house is put together by a couple manufactured homes. I could be wrong but it looks that way to me. Did you guys notice that? Appraisals on manufactured homes are far less than standard homes, getting a big mortgage could be difficult.

  • 4 years ago

    $750K for an acre in West Palm?

    Thats reasonable regardless of home or inventory.


    I chuckle at the flood pictures because that looks like a typical summer afternoon thunderstorm in Florida.

    There are risks anywhere you choose to live, but if the generational locals arent worried, you should’t be either.

  • 4 years ago

    Let’s see how much it ends up. I am very interested in real estate as a hobby. This property can be a study case.

  • 4 years ago

    I live in Florida.... not far from here.... Yes we have had flood the last two summers..... very unusual.... Much less than people who live by rivers or lakes in some of the northern states.....

    The only reason Florida had their bad floods is that we were having celestial tides when a storm went by off the coast and stalled out.... When the tides came in they were not able to go back out when there were 8 plus feet waves keeping the tides from going out.....


    The cycle for the weather will turn and we will no longer have to worry.....



  • 4 years ago

    Sheila, I also think Christopher should run it! Hey my parrots love Florida, I'm sure his would too lol. I also wonder how he is and didn't he have a rose project with a cemetery?


    I moved a little higher in elevation and about an hour off the FL coast. Our other house was right on a small river branch which could flood terribly whenever the St John's River got too high and we were getting a lot of rain. One year, I lost a ton of roses and was knee deep in water in my own backyard! My barn flooded numerous times there. Too much work, I got tired of it lol.

    ~Sjn

  • 4 years ago

    Yes, Sultry, I'm sure Christopher's parrot would love Florida. I'm glad you are on higher ground.

  • 4 years ago

    The house is off the market now. They took it off the market on March 16th. I talked to a friend who has a property in West Palm Beach today, and she was interested in this property, but I couldn't find the sale listing on Zillow to show her the photos. This could be a good news for the rose lovers.

  • 4 years ago

    Yes. summer..... I just came on to say that they took this off the market for now. They found someone to help out. They had moved out in order to show the property, but have now moved back into their home. I am happy to know that they have decided not to sell, at least for now.