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Natural Maple or White - very small kitchen?

4 years ago

hi there,

i have a small 10x13 kitchen, u-shaped.

below picture is pretty much same layout (not my house)

am gutting and in cabinet shopping shock.


can i get away with natural maple shaker cabinets instead of white shaker?

counters will be borghini chiffon white/grey quartz...can't change that.

backsplash may be same or plain white tone.

floor will be light grey/white lvt.

appliances stainless color, shocking i know.


rest of home would flow better with a warmer tone....

thanks for your thoughts if maple could work! : )


Comments (25)

  • 4 years ago

    I had a small U-shape kitchen in a 1925 colonial. I redid it with natural maple cabinets (i.e. no stain). It looked great. The house had an old chestnut floor underneath 5 layers of various decades of flooring. It was small but cheerful.

    Jan Kelly thanked RedRyder
  • 4 years ago

    JMO, but I absolutely LOVE clear-coated natural maple. In fact, all my walnut cabinets have maple as the interior, and there are times I wish I could turn the cabinets inside out so I could see that beautiful maple all the time!

    My only question would be about natural maple's tendency to get a bit pinkish (or is it golden?). But perhaps just the tiniest bit of a light stain would prevent that. I would ask serious woodworkers for advice on that. (My kitchen cabinet guy didn't know staining and I paid the price!)

  • 4 years ago

    Natural maple is beautiful, but must have protective coat in a kitchen, either a light honey stain or a clear coat. They do tend to get more yellow as they age which gives it a lovely patina. The maple will add a warm tone to balance the whites and grays.

    Jan Kelly thanked marylut
  • 4 years ago

    BTW, 10x13 is a nice size kitchen.

    Jan Kelly thanked marylut
  • 4 years ago

    Clear coated maple is lovely! I have seen many kitchen professionals post that clear coated maple does yellow over time. Be prepared for that.

    Jan Kelly thanked kculbers
  • PRO
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    No to the gray /white floor. already long on its way out. Was a fad. No matter the cabinet, and ESPECIALLY not with natural maple. The cabinets will go pink or yellow with gray anything.

    If you want a warm home, change the floor to any of a million natural looking wood tones, and do white for cabinets. Or a warm green. .....or....

    Don't end up in two palette warm/cool conflict. And MOST important? Have floor unity through the house. So what is the REST of the flooring?

    A white cabinet and a mid stained wood floor with a marble look counter is classic.

    Therefore........no to two things in your plan.: ) Sorry. Thank me later.

    I beg...............first thing to go is your flooring selection.. Just say no.no NO.

    Marble look white and gray counter?? Better with white, than any maple but a darker factory stained. Maple can be very blotchy, does not love stain, at all.

    The point? Consider the rest of your home carefully. Nothing lives in isolation. Style, color......traditional, modern ......or.

    Warm cozy traditional and green...below, Makes me want crusty bread, wine, and some soup. Love it: )



    Natural MAPLE and note the floor...!!!!!!



    Jan Kelly thanked JAN MOYER
  • 4 years ago

    I also agree with Jan. No gray floor with maple. Go warm or go cool, but don’t combine them. White cabs with a faux- marble quartz and gray floors would look great albeit a common combo. If you would care to show pics of the adjacent spaces, that might be helpful. Sounds like an exciting project.

  • PRO
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    No gray lvt/floor....period. Tile, as in dark slate? That's a different animal. Just NO to the faux gray/white. With ANY cabinet color.

    Just because it has been done, done and done......does not mean you should. It means you should not

    The number of times something has been done, does not make it classic and timeless. So ......yes the white kitchen has been done ........and remains to this day one of the most versatile selections you can make. Versatile.......is a wonderful thing: )

    Jan Kelly thanked JAN MOYER
  • 4 years ago

    I agree with Jan. The floor doesn’t work with maple. However, I love Maple cabinets. My mom had a home in the 90s that had maple cabinets with a grayish corian, and it was very pretty, but she had hardwood floors that kept it warm. I think if you want Maple who should go more natural wood tones with the floors or do a ceramic tile floor. I think your countertops will look pretty with it as the only cool element. If you are dead set on the floors, then do white cabinets, but make sure your white is a cool white

    Jan Kelly thanked User
  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    My parents had their maple cabinetry stained, and it turned out blotchy. The wood will age toward orange in time. Maple also twists and warps in high humidity swings, so be sure your environment is stable before selecting maple. You indicate furniture grade, clear coat maple is less expensive than white paint? That surprises me from any brand. Cabinets are very expensive and getting more so with the current lumber price . Do a lot of research and get a lot of quotes to be sure you get the best balance of quality and pricing to suit your situation. Gray is not a color that will be moving forward in time as far as current and developing interior trends, but if you insist on the gray floor, I would do white cabinetry rather than maple to avoid tone clash.

    Jan Kelly thanked Aglitter
  • 4 years ago

    A gray floor can work great with maple cabinetry provided the gray has a tan undertone when held up to other shades of gray. Gray can be a real gray or can have undertone of yellow, red, green, purple, blue, or tan/griege.

    Jan Kelly thanked marylut
  • 4 years ago

    You say you can’t change the Borghini Chiffon countertops. Look very closely at the shades and undertones of whites and grays in the countertop and make sure your kitchen lightbulbs are on the warm yellow side of the Kelvin scale when selecting the new flooring and cab color. You ask if you can use natural maple shaker fronts instead of white, yes you can. If you go with white cabs, look very carefully at the undertone of the white finish on the cab fronts to see if it goes with - or fights with - the white in the Borghini Chiffon countertop. Maple is a tight grained, durable wood, great for daily use kitchen cabinetry. Look closely at the maple grain options you are offered - you can go with a natural grain (1st photo) or striated grain (2nd photo). I don’t know why some are saying maple doesn’t stain well, because it does. All real wood darkens with age but of course it is more noticeable in lighter woods. If you have an open floor plan, run the flooring throughout the sightline - to visually unite the spaces together as the Pros suggest.

  • 4 years ago

    Well, dang, Houzz posted the pictures backwards to how I loaded them - top is striated grain, bottom is natural.

  • 4 years ago

    thanks all for advice - very helpful to hear other views and appreciate your comments. I will reconsider the light grey floor. it's an isolated room that only abuts to the dining room that has chesnut/gunpower old wood i could never match. was thinking not even trying to trick the eye into 'faux' wood. sadly tile or stone is out due too cold feel. i do take warmer tones to heart....does make sense. and yes, color temp on lighting is so KEY. whites are tricky - i feel safer with clear, natural maple....(rest of house is warm tone throughout) .thanks all!!

  • 4 years ago

    bmore recommended Sherrs, about maple: "Staining is available for some wood types... There are some woods that we will not stain: Maple, Birch, Cherry, and Pine."

    Jan Kelly thanked everdebz
  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    In reply to the above poster, parts of maple stain beautifully, and therein is the problem. Not all grain directions of maple absorb stain equally, so on a 5-piece door, you have splotches where the grain changes depending on the style and cut, and the stain patterns are uneven at those change marks and noticeable to the trained eye.

    Jan Kelly thanked Aglitter
  • 4 years ago

    Have you considered cork or linoleum for the floor? Natural materials would go beautifully with natural maple cabinets.

    Jan Kelly thanked iroll
  • 4 years ago

    ^^ agree with the cork recoo - also Marmoleum is fabulous (I saw a white kitchen with green Marmoleum floors that was so fresh and crisp - it was lovely)

    Jan Kelly thanked la_la Girl
  • 4 years ago

    @iroll yes, have considered marmo and linoleum....intriguing options...and keeps in the period of the home. (1949)


  • 4 years ago

    Two comments for you:


    I have a U-shaped kitchen that's 9 x 13. We're in the midst of installing natural maple cabinets--have all of the boxes up but are waiting for the carpenter to make the doors. The boxes and sides seem plenty light enough, and I have a kitchen with no natural light and I installed soapstone for counters. The lighting is what makes all of the difference.


    In their 1926 house, my son and DIL have natural maple cabinets with marmoleum floors in a lime green. It looks great. But, she says the marmoleum shows every spill and speck of dirt. They have three kids, so obviously there is lots of spilling and messes.

  • 4 years ago

    Marmoleum can also stain and rip. It's a fun flooring but not something to last for decades like tile or hardwood will.

  • 4 years ago

    Natural maple turns yellow over time and shows water stains. I can’t believe it’s even back in! We put it in 2002, then painted it 2017.

  • 4 years ago

    I always feel words are never as good as a picture…but from what i have heard this Coretec color LVP may work…it is not greatly varied in coloration…has a gray undertone…but is a warm color…and the woodgrain shows way less spots and stuff

  • 4 years ago

    If you go with maple this may not match …but from what i have heard about maple…it will end up not matching anything in the long run as it seems to evolve so much ,over time,…color wise

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