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LED lighting for home: 2700 or 3000 white

4 years ago

Hi everyone, our family is doing a gut reno and I'll need to decide on recessed/pot lighting soon. In our previous space, we used incandescent everywhere and I really liked the warm feel everywhere but especially entertaining. We will use LED now and I'm torn between 2700 K(warm white - think edison bulb warmth) and the 3000 K (still considered warm white) that my contractor says is what they typically install.


FYI, we will get a decent amount of sunlight in most rooms (live in the country so no close neighbors), my entire family prefers cozy and we have dimmers on everything regardless. But because I haven't seen 2700 LED in person or 3000 LED in person, am finding it hard to tell if there will be a big difference. I suggested to my contractor that we could do 2700 in bedrooms and dining/living and 3000 elsewhere and he suggested that we keep it all the same.


Thx in advance for your lighting perspectives!

Comments (26)

  • 4 years ago

    Buy a 4-pack of each at the supermarket to try out.

    ma2014w thanked apple_pie_order
  • 4 years ago

    Thanks apple pie, for the prompt response. Ours is a gut reno so I have nowhere to test this. Perhaps I should go to a lighting store.

  • 4 years ago

    Edisons are 2000, not nearly as white as 2700.

    ma2014w thanked palimpsest
  • 4 years ago

    Thanks for clarifying palimpsest. I had edison on the island with halogen for recessed and lamps with incandescent so moving to LED seems sooo white :)


  • 4 years ago

    https://www.modern.place/led-color-temperature-chart/


    This may help you narrow it down. Personally, I think 3500-4000K dimmables might give you a full range of options from daylight to cozy. Chat with the store personnel at an actual lighting store, not a big box store; you want to speak with a knowledgeable person.

    ma2014w thanked decoenthusiaste
  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    I like 2700 for living areas because that is what i am used to with incandescent. I don't like anything higher than 3000. "In the cold light of day" is not an expression for nothing. A Flash Bulb is 5000.

    ma2014w thanked palimpsest
  • 4 years ago

    So does that mean a 3000 could dim to 2700? We will still have dimmers but i thought the colour warmth doesn't change. I agree with you - I need to go to a lighting store. My contractor's team are experts but not sure they care as much re: finer detail of lighting color.

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    Fwiw I use 2700 for my ‘traditional’ clients, my house (more contemporary) is 3000. 4000+ looks corporate to me.

    ma2014w thanked HALLETT & Co.
  • 4 years ago

    There are no LED bulbs with as good CRI as incandescent bulbs. LEDs do not have thermal spectra, unlike incandescents. That's one reason why many people prefer the light from incandescent bulbs at home. If light quality, rather than just the rated color temperature, is important to you, look for the highest CRI you can find in LEDs. The color temperature preference is quite personal: eyes change as they get older. Many people have very slightly different color sensitivities in each eye, too.

  • 4 years ago

    ohhhhhhh, very interesting Hallett - our previous was more transitional but will be more mid-century modern, lots of white walls, and lots more light. Thank you for sharing that.

  • 4 years ago

    Be aware that dimming LEDs only goes so far while keeping the light quality. I’m not thrilled with any of mine and usually keep them at full brightness or turn them off. Select the lumens carefully.

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    I’m a big fan of lamps with warm white bulbs in cozy areas like living, dining, and bedrooms. In task rooms like the kitchen, laundry, and hobby areas, I need brighter lights in the 3000 LED range. It’s nice to have the pot lights as an option and use lamps when you’re relaxing or entertaining. I tried to find LED bulbs with a 90+ CRI (color rendering index) and have been happy with the lighting. Kristie Barnett @ thedecorologist.com has some very helpful blog posts on lighting (and excellent advice in general)!


    @ J Hack: Yes, I forgot about the adjustable LED bulbs! We did install those in the kitchen and tried a couple different temperatures before settling on 3000 or so. I do remember the 3500+ were too cold and bright for me. Great suggestion for the OP!

    ma2014w thanked L P
  • 4 years ago

    FYI they now make LED's where they have a selectable color temp on them ranging from 2700k-5000k. Might want to look into that as well.

    ma2014w thanked J Hack
  • 4 years ago

    Thanks J Hack. I saw some and mentioned it to my contractor - he still thinks that I should choose one standard for all the recessed but at least that would allow me to test out one area. Have you tried them?

  • 4 years ago

    If you are unsure, I would suggest 2 things for recessed lighting:

    1. If you are using LED lumenaires, select ones that have adjustable color temperatures. At any time you can change from 2700K-5000K (varies per product).

    2. If you would like additional adjustablilty beyond color, like lamp style, depth, available trim/baffle selections, and future-proofing, select an Edison-socket lumenaire. At any time you can experiment with different lamps to achieve the results you like.

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    ** lumenaire: the whole kit and kaboodle - housing, driver, trim, baffle, lens, lamp

    ** lamp: the 'bulb'

    ma2014w thanked 3onthetree
  • 4 years ago

    2700k gives a orange cast to every thing in my home. I prefer 3000 to 3500k in kitchen. You can get recessed lights that habe different presets that you can change as you like

    ma2014w thanked User
  • 4 years ago

    Saving for me.

    ma2014w thanked NagyMama
  • 4 years ago

    Go to Home Depot (or Lowes, etc.) and buy a retrofit, recessed light such as this Halo RL4069S1EWHR with a screw base and selectable color temperature. Attach the light to a lamp and take it around your house, trying out the various color temperatures. OR install LED lights with adjustable color temperature that you can adjust anytime. OR install separate housings, trims, and LED bulbs; then choose bulbs whose color temperatures you like for each room.

    FYI: I use 2700K in living room, 3000K in hallways and bathroom, and 3500K in kitchen.

    ma2014w thanked wdccruise
  • 4 years ago

    Thank you all for your great feedback - I've decided to go with adjustable so I can test out the 2700 and 3000 and see what I prefer. Wdccruise, are you varying lights close to one another at all? The only place I see a potential for color conflict is in the great room as I would prefer 2700 over the dining room and living room but potentially 3000 over the kitchen.

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    Remember the days when it was just a 25-40-60-75 or 100 watt bulb? You got fancy if you bought the warm white ones....

    I feel your pain!

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    IMO not much different once you stop getting bogged down in a bunch of info you don't need you need to know the type of bulb you are replacing and IMO 4000K works everywhere and you can get dimmable where you think you need them

    ma2014w thanked Patricia Colwell Consulting
  • 4 years ago

    Thanks Patricia - we aren't replacing any bulbs. This is a gut reno so starting from scratch from LED and haven't use them throughout the house before.

  • 4 years ago

    "Wdccruise, are you varying lights close to one another at all?"

    The kitchen (3500K) is adjacent to the dining room (2700K) and there's a pass-through opening between them but the difference in color temp just doesn't draw attention to itself.

  • 4 years ago

    FYI -WW3 is brewing and we are talking about lights?!


    2700-3000 adjustable with 95 CRI. 😏

  • 4 years ago

    “FYI -WW3 is brewing and we are talking about lights?!”

    It’s a design forum, so yes, it it is a bit of ”first world problems”. that being said, why are you here? Im sure there are thousands of other forums where you can go to discuss World politics.