Gorgeous, Jeri! I'd "like" it, but Houzz prevents me from "following" any post. Don't know why.

Love the photos, Jeri. I have this one on order. Crossing my fingers that it's at least semi-healthy here. Some of the foundlings are amazing here, others struggle. But then, I'm definitely NOT in CA, lol.

Like Kim, I can't follow posts...OR other members, now. I don't know when the change happened, but now I can only "save" a post. That function seems to work just fine. I'm following 13 people, but I can't add anyone new. Obviously, at one time, I COULD follow someone. How-uzzlezz gets more uzzlezz all the time. It would be funny if it weren't so tragic :P

I am getting one this year as well❤

That one is definitely on my list to grow in my garden... Someday!

Gorgeous!

Thank you, Jeri, and thank you for "advertising" so many of these old mystery roses!

Jackie

It's good here (central Florida) as well. A great rose. This one is in the greenhouse, but we also have a large bush in the garden (currently pruned, so not blooming)

Now, Malcolm -- Don't you think it odd that roses like this, which are of SUCH high quality -- which excell in the garden, and in the vase, which are "easy-keepers" and disease-resistant . . . have been SO TOTALLY FORGOTTEN that even as more and more people know it . . . can remain unidentified???

@jerijen there were SO many self seedlings introduced from and so many extremely similar types to commercial successes introduced, you have the same situation with them as you do with the Rouletti and Chinas. So many which are SO similar but very just a LITTLE bit. Just enough for someone to declare they aren't the same, but so close they are surely related. A commercial success would be introduced and others would then either steal it and rename it or raise seedlings from it so they would have one, also.

The thing about OTN, it now appears that it was found twice -- once on the East side of the Bay -- in Berkeley . . . Once on the East side of the Bay, near the old railroad station in Novato. So either two people had it, or one person had it, and lived in two places.

I'm just grateful as Hell that we have it!

Thank you for this OTN thread and your gorgeous photos, Jeri! I have been gazing at your many pics on HMF, too. You are surely the Queen of Old Rose Preservation! This found lovely should absolutely be widely grown and is on my Burlington list, either to replace a more common variety in my garden or to grow in a pot for awhile and then gift to a rose friend. If it weren’t so thorny, I’d snag it for my place in a heartbeat, but I have a microscopic garden with tight turns, a kid on high sensory alert and a verym very furry rough collie! Carol

A lady contacted me once, years ago, to ask about some roses they were contemplating for a Children's Garden, a few miles from here.

I liked the roses she was considering, and agreed that 'Sombreuil, Cl.' with it's magnificent fragrance, would be great on an entryway arbor. But I noted that it (and a few others she had in mind) were very well-endowed with prickles.

She said that she was aware of that, but thought that it was important that children learn that some roses had thorns. I thought that was a good point.