All of them should do as well for you as what you already grow as far as your zone is concerned. Whether there will be black spot or other disease issues is another matter. Your "winters" shouldn't be too cold for them as they all have pretty common hardiness to about zone 6b. Because there are multiple races of black spot across the country and few roses are resistant to multiple races, you may experience spotting issues from them. Just because they don't spot for someone in one area of the country means nothing about whether they will spot for you where you are. The same holds true for the reverse. What spots for me may remain totally spotless for you.

Kim's right. Location makes such a huge difference that I almost hate to say much,.

HOWEVER . . .

We grew Sally Holmes for years. Gall finally got her, but she was awesome.

in our Southern California garden, back in the day when our summers were mild, and fog was often an issue, she grew 7-8ft tall, and had no disease issues at all.

- Perle D’or

Has been vigorous, beautiful, generous and disease-free, both in my garden, and in old cemeteries where we've found it.

And the same can be said for 'Mlle. Cecile Brunner'

You can't be to far from Roses Unlimited. I'm almost sure they carry every rose you have listed. If you get a chance, you could swing by their nursery and talk to them. They are great folks and won't steer you wrong.

Marie Pavie comes in a few different forms. The extremely petal packed bloom form is far superior in both superior bush growth as well as more profuse, petal packed flower production. Some Marie Pavie strains have barely semi-double blooms and are not vigorous.

Old Pickering Nursery (out of business for some time now), near Ontario, CA, sold it. I wish I knew who sells that strain/form now a days. The search for it is well worth the effort.

Take a look at the photos provided for Marie Pavie on HELP ME FIND ROSES, and you will instantly see the photos of the strain I am talking about. Perhaps contact the poster(s), of those photos for leads?

Moses

Marie Daly, sport of Marie Pavie, from Antique Rose Emporium has single blush to white flowers and grows like a short 8’ climber in my climate with zero thorns, I think they have the wrong bloom pic on their website for their MD, but it is definitely a much more vigorous plant than my Marie Pavie from Burlington. Marie Pavie from Burlington is pale pink aging to white short 3 foot shrub with fully double flowers and her fragrance wafts 20 feet and is very powerful on a warm day. She has a few thorns but not many. I think Marie Pavie might naturally sport a lot and so the various vendors have slightly different sports of what they call Marie Pavie.

@Stephanie, 9b inland SoCal your marie pavie is gorgeous. I’m thinking of ordering one from petals from the past. Their photos show the very double one.

Sally Holmes is a top fave for me. Despite what some folks say, she is a once-bloomer for me, but very worth it... spectacular for 6-8 weeks. Mine is ~20 years old. I was convinced by a friend in OK to order Marie Pavie from Chamblees in 2017 when they were doing the hand-over to the new buyer, and I have not been particularly impressed. I had circled around this rose for years, trying to decide, after reading so many raves. I wouldn't describe it as "petal-packed", nor do I detect much of the famous wafting scent. I guess Chamblees version isn't the one that everyone loves so much. Mine blooms well, but I just don't care. My friend in OK ditched hers 2 years after we bought it.

I grew a couple of Belinda’s Dream maybe 20 years ago from Antique Rose Emporium. They were the new disease resistant rose. It got BS as bad as any other rose. Kind of disappointing.

Susan, I'm really surprised that your Sally Holmes didn't repeat. Ours sure did, and our conditions are probably very similar.

That IS strange. I've never encountered a Sally Holmes which DIDN'T flower repeatedly. There is a home here in town where it's chilly and it flowers nearly year-round.

Sally repeats here in Portland, OR, even in shade! She hardly, if ever, blackspots in this area. Ditto ARE’s Marie Pavie. MP’s wafting scent—yum! Perle and Cecile are also dittos. All great in my area. Perle doesn’t so much repeat as it blooms nonstop. Cutest little apricot cut flowers ever! Carol

I know, it's funny about Sally. When I bought her ~20 years ago, I thought she was a repeat-bloomer. But as I was checking out from the nursery with her, the gal (a very experienced person at the nursery) mentioned that she was a once-bloomer. And thus she has been ever since. The only thing I can say is that she is growing on the north side of a 6' wooden fence, so gets no sun in the winter. I was on a rose tour back in 2002 (?) when the PSWD had their convention in San Jose, and Beverly Rose Hopper's garden was one of them (anyone remember her?). She had the most spectacular Sally, and she said that she re-bloomed well for her. Go figure. It's not like Sally is hard to mix up with other roses!

Lucianob, if you get MP from petals of the past it would be great to know if it looks like mine. Maybe we could start a post comparing versions of her.

@Stephanie, 9b inland SoCal If i get it then I’ll definently compare it with yours. I should probably place my order before it goes out of stock haha.

@susan9santabarbara

I have known that to happen once in awhile with other roses over the years—no repeat on a remontant rose but not due to poor cultivation. I have witnessed a hedge of remontant roses with one, single non repeater in the mix. Odd. It may have to do with the particular cane that was originally propagated for the nursery‘s stock? Maybe the mechanism behind the non remontancy is similar to what happens when a propagated cutting grows into a shrub that never blooms? I’ve run into a number of beautifully cultivated non blooming flowering shrubs over the years, too. (Totally guessing about the cause here.) I see Kim and Jeri farther up the thread. Maybe they can explain the mystery. Kim knows all! :-)

Carol

Lucian, I wanted to mention another everblooming, waftingly fragrant, healthy easy keeper that I believe will grow beautifully in your zone, Blush Noisette. One of my favs. Honestly never out of bloom in my garden except in winter. Not a huge Noisette. Just a large shrub or small climber. Carol

Houzz won’t post my photo. I’ll try again later.

You're too funny! Sure! A degenerative sport could explain it. Why not? They can climb instead of being a bush. They can become a bush instead of climbing. They can change color, they can stripe, they can lose and occasionally gain petal count. Why not remontancy? Iceberg sported from a white bush to a white, once-flowering climber, which further sported to a white, repeat-flowering climber. The bush then sported to blush pink, brilliant pink and burgundy. Blaze was once-flowering until "Blaze Improved" arrived with repeat bloom. So many HT's and floribundas have sported to climbers, some of which flowered once and many others flowered repeatedly. Why couldn't there be a once-flowering, degenerative sport Sally Holmes?

Thank you, Kim! I feel horticulturally validated. :-) Carol

@portlandmysteryrose I was looking at blush noisette but saw somwhere that it would get diseased and not bloom well. Can it be a large unsupported shrub without much prunning?

@roseseek, @jerijen, @portlandmysteryrose. Thanks for all of your comments and hypotheses about sports! All I can say is that I bought Sally from the premiere nursery here in Santa Barbara ~20 years ago, which also specializes in roses (La Sumida). I have no idea who the producer of it was. It's not like it's a Meilland rose, so we can assume Star. This nursery has carried it every year since. I just think it's interesting that the clerk (a long-time very experienced employee) warned me that it was a once-bloomer when I bought it. So that was either from her experience of growing it in her yard, or observing it at the nursery. I should probably go check who their current supplier of it is, once they get their potted rose field set up, which should be soon. And ask if their current version is remontant!

@susan9santabarbara

This is really interesting! I look forward to hearing the nursery’s feedback if you contact the them. Like you, I am fine with once bloomers. They are part of seasonal change. And as you noted, SH really puts on a magnificent, extended show, so even as a non remontant, it’s a grand rose! SH makes bouquets like a hydrangea. In my experience, some remontant Hybrid Musks can be stingy with later blooms. They remind me of Bourbons in that way. Unpredictible. My Zepherine Drouhin has blooms all summer between her 2 flushes, but some gardeners say they get little to no rebloom, even in climates similar to mine. I guess I hit the Zeph lottery! Carol

@lucianob2022

My BN is very healthy but it would be best to check nurseries or rose societies in your area to be safe. I have grown BN as a gorgeous, medium large, free standing shrub. It could just be deadheaded (it’s a bloom machine) and pruned annually for shape and size. It’s not a big Noisette. Definitely shrubby, even as a climber. Carol

Marie Pavie has the most exquisite scent. It's just the most charming rose imaginable.

Finally! Blush Noisette.

More BN.

Marie Pavie with Tradescant.

Perle d’Or

@portlandmysteryrose Thank you so much for the photos. Your roses are so pretty.

I got DEANNA KRAUSE a couple yrs ago. She's a sweet thing, but the blooms do blow very fast!

Cecile Brunner is prone to BS in a humid climate.

@Beth Hana the flowers are so pretty. How does it grow? I’ve seen some pictures and it looks like it’s very twiggy and open.