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Need help saving a dying baby Serbian Spruce + 1 other question.

4 years ago
last modified: 4 years ago

Our local landscaping place had 4 evergreen trees (1 white pine, 2 blue spruce, 1 Serbian spruce) leftover from last year, so we bought them for a discounted $75 (original price was $189). Right after we had them delivered, the winter struck and the ground was frozen for over a month here in Central PA. I did some online research and for spruce it said the best time to plant them was February. So I was holding out until then hoping the trees didn't die. Well, they didn't. I also could not break through the frozen ground even if I wanted to. Eventually Feb came and the ground was still frozen. I borrowed our neighbor's backhoe as a last ditch effort to get these trees in the ground. It took hours of work to break through the ice, but I eventually had 4 holes dug. I returned the backhoe and found my trees were frozen to the ground. I have never planted trees before, so this was all new. I eventually broke the trees free gently, but realized they were too heavy to move, even with my family out there all pitching in to help. I've read where they grow about a foot a year, so these have to be 4-6 years old by their size. They must weight hundreds of pounds. I was eventually able to maneuver the white pine onto a thick sheet of plywood, then rope the wood to my riding lawn mower and drag it over to its hole. It was a ton of work to just get that simple task done, and I am sure it probably did some subtle damage to my lawn mower. I didn't want to have to do this 3 more times. I noticed our Serbian spruce is now half brown/dead and half green. I knew I was losing one of these 4 trees. I borrowed my neighbors backhoe again and he brought it over last night. Someone else had been borrowing it for weeks.

So here's my first question: can my Serbian spruce be saved by putting it into the ground finally? Or will it just continue to die? I don't want to waste the effort and time if it has no chance. But if there is a way to bring it back to life and turn all those brown needles green, I will do it today.

My second question is I've seen mixed reviews over how to plant these trees. Many youtube tutorial vids just show them putting the tree in the ground and covering it with dirt. Others add all sorts of compost and other nutritious soils from the store. And yet others go into cutting the root ball at various angles before dropping it into the ground. Our trees are all wrapped in the canvas sack material with metal wiring holding it all together. Can I just clip through the metal wiring, remove the canvas sack, and drop the trees into the ground, then pile the dirt back around them? The guy who owns the landscape store told me you don't need to add anything special. Just add the dirt that was removed from the ground to make the hole. Is it really that easy?

Comments (10)

  • 4 years ago

    "Can I just clip through the metal wiring, remove the canvas sack, and drop the trees into the ground, then pile the dirt back around them? The guy who owns the landscape store told me you don't need to add anything special. Just add the dirt that was removed from the ground to make the hole. Is it really that easy?"

    Yes, it is that easy. And the way it should be done. Amending individual planting holes has long been disproven to be a beneficial practice.

    Can you post any photo of the spruce? It is hard to judge its condition just by a verbal description.

    Kevin Counter thanked gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
  • 4 years ago

    Thanks for the reply. I will see if I can take pics of it.

  • 4 years ago

    And I don't need to clip any of the root ball? Just leave it in tact as it was in the canvas bag?

  • 4 years ago

    This is good to know!

  • 4 years ago

    I would make an oversize hole, set the canvas covered root ball in the ground and cut as much of the canvas as possible. Reach under as far as possible with a sharp safety knife and slice all the way thru the canvas, out to the edge.. Make at least 4 slices so that the roots can grow in 4 directions. That will help the new roots to help stabilize the tree in the wind.


    I know of a Bartlett Pear tree about 4 feet tall. It produced 3 pears every year. So it had been there for many years. You could rock the tree because the tree was still growing in the canvas. I dug under it and cut the canvas myself. Canvas will likely outlast the tree, for one the tree will have a shortened life span.

  • 4 years ago

    While your under a tree, cutting the canvas you might amend the hole you made to encourage the roots to grow out of the bag. I wouldn't attempt to cut the encircled roots.

  • 4 years ago

    Canvas - being a completely natural material - rots. So does burlap, which is far more likely to be the material covering the root ball. Even treated burlap rots in time and neither will "outlast the tree"!!

    The above is outdated information. It is suggested to remove as much wrapping material as possible without damaging too many fine feeder roots, it is no longer advised to amend any planting hole and it is critical to cut or untangle any circling roots to ensure them to be able to develop the proper lateral spread.

  • 4 years ago

    A tree weighing hundreds of pounds is a different job than a bare root seedling. I would never suggest anyone hang the tree with their left hand while cutting away the burlap and then cut away the wire with their right hand. And then untangle the roots. Nothing to it. Only hundreds of pounds. So if you cut away the burlap in 4 directions, you might find a root end, but then what are you gonna do with it. The rootball is sitting in the hole. Spreading some compost out away from the ends of the canvas cuts will encourage the tree to grow roots in that direction.


    Have you ever noticed that if you grow in a tray, a cup, a pot, a big pot or an above ground bed how important what you use .as a filler is. But then when it comes to working in the ground the reverse is true. I recommended what I would do. I was born with a hernia, I know what it feels like when it bursts. To do it the way I suggest you're going to tunnel under the tree in the 4 locations and never try to hold it up in the air as you work.

  • 4 years ago

    Way back to your first question , if your tree is half brown , it is likely dieing from lack of water...planting a dieing tree is a waste

    Don't amend the hole

    make sure not to plant too deeply

    cut away as much BURLAP as possible

    ron