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Exterior LED Lighting

13 years ago
We are engaged in an extensive outdoor remodeling project. We need a lot of outdoor lighting and are planning our lighting design. We've been looking at FX Luminaire which is very expensive! The LED lighting at Lowe's is much cheaper. So I'd like to know, what is something you can/cannot skimp on? The Transformer, certain fixtures, what? Do I need a high-end transformer but can mix it with lower end lights? Please advise.

Comments (17)

  • 13 years ago
    Just took a pic of my solar lights in the back yard. Bright enough to see the dogs, not much good for reading.
    Annika Pitcher thanked groveraxle
  • 13 years ago
    I know I won't be using solar lights, because as groveraxle says, they are too dim. I am looking at low-voltage, LED lights. But the current plan, just for the Transformer and less than 10 lights, is almost 10k. Is there an alternative?
  • 13 years ago
    Are you using a landscape designer?
    Annika Pitcher thanked hal72940
  • 13 years ago
    Hal72940, yes and no. We have had some planting schemes done but nothing involving lighting.
  • 13 years ago
    $10K in low voltage lights should buy you a parking lot full. That's outrageous unless they're gold-plated. And yes, there are lots of alternatives. Here's a kit with transformer, four path lights and two spots for $55.
    Brinkmann Outdoor Lighting. 6 Piece Low Voltage LED Path & Spot Light Kit · More Info
    Annika Pitcher thanked groveraxle
  • 13 years ago
    Given the spectacular opportunities in your photo, an investment seems worth it, but 10K seems like a load of $$$. I'd consider how long you will be in this home, how much fussing around you want to do with the lighting later (as, unfortunately, lesser products do often have a shorter life), and how much time you really spend outdoors when they are on (i.e., how much IS it worth?.)
  • 13 years ago
    Outdoor light systems are all low voltage, and as such, don't suck much wattage. My outdoor system uses corona fixtures and a very good quality transformer / timer system. The timer system also powers my xmas lights and halloween decorations. I haven't been sorry for my choice, although I know that LEDs would not have to be replaced as often (every couple of years the bulbs burn out).
  • 13 years ago
    These are my path lights - spaced one every 10-15 feet on my curved pathway:
    http://www.coronalighting.com/Path%20Lighting/Info/CL-708.html

    Lights for the planting beds:
    http://www.coronalighting.com/Area%20Lighting/Info/CL-624.html

    Well lights to uplight my Japanese maples (love seeing the tree structure from beneath:
    http://www.coronalighting.com/Well%20Lighting/Info/CL-305.html

    Spotlights for other features:
    http://www.coronalighting.com/Directional%20Lighting/Info/CL507%20Directional.htm
    Annika Pitcher thanked Lynne Mysliwiec
  • 13 years ago
    Lynne, thank you so much for pointing in the direction of Corona Lighting. I am going through one of their distributors.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Annika, I have been installing FX Luminaire for over 8 years and they are great fixtures and transformers. I wish I could charge 10K for a transformer and 10 lights! Way too much. We also service many other systems and I have not come across better fixtures than FX. Don't scrimp on the transformer. With LED lights averaging around 4-5 watts each, you can easily put 30 lights on a 150 watt transformer. FX transformers have multiple taps to allow you to run longer wires to the far reaches of your yard. Check AOLP for members in your area. You should be able to find someone that will do it for a more reasonable cost.
    Annika Pitcher thanked Exquisite Outdoor Lighting
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    10 year warranty on LED fixtures and transformers that includes the diode (light source)
    Annika Pitcher thanked Exquisite Outdoor Lighting
  • 13 years ago
    Exquisite, how are FX transformers any different than other transformers? Isn't it just 12 volts out?
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    With a multi-tap transformer you have voltage ranges from 11-14 volts. Depending on the distance of the wire runs from the transformer, you might need to use 14 volts coming out of the transformer to power fixtures that are going to be furthest from the transformer. Low voltage wire loses power as you increase the distance the wire travels and when you add load (fixtures). LED fixtures work best when they have between 10-15 volts at the fixture. If you were to run wire from your house to the very back of your property and then perhaps run it up some trees to provide down lights, you could be looking at considerable distances. The plain transformers that are sold at the big box stores have @ 12 volts coming out of one tap and you can quickly find you don't have enough voltage on long runs or when you add multiple fixtures. FX transformers also come with thermal breakers. If the transformer gets too hot, the breaker will trip, shutting off the power. I have replaced more than one basic transformer that was melted because there was an overload on the wire.
  • 12 years ago
    Annika, great info. What is your experience on the number of LEDs on the FX series? Is 1 LED enough or do I need to go with 3 or 6 LEDs? What are your thoughts on the dimming and wifi options?
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    Depends upon the application. 1 LED lights work great for wall lights, deck lights, etc. The QZ1 up light works great on small ornamentals or garden art. The 3 LED up lights are the equivalent of 20 watt halogen lamps and are great for larger trees and architectural lighting.
  • 12 years ago
    Thanks! Do you know what the equivalent is for the 6 LED lights? We are placing a few along the ledge of our BBQ counter, sounds like 1 LED should be good there. The others are all down lights over a fit pit (on a gazebo) or up lights on trees.
    Any thoughts on the dimmer and wifi control? In your experience, are people happy they added these options?