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Induction vs. gas

4 years ago

I'm a huge fan of induction after years of thinking I'd have nothing but gas. Then I moved to a house with no gas line to the kitchen and decided to try induction. I absolutely love it and thought I'd never again choose gas. I have a second home in the woods with a 20-year-old natural gas range. I've been planning ahead for when it dies and was sure I'd get a new induction range - even picked one out. Then came a severe thunderstorm this past weekend and a 48-hour power outage. I cannot tell you how thankful I was to have a gas range that at allowed me to use the cooktop - a lifesaver. I had six guests and could at least cook some things and was able to heat water for washing the humans and the dishes. I now have serious second thoughts about induction at this location (this isn't the first power outage though the last one was only eight hours) unless I invest in a whole house generator which I'm seriously considering. I realize extended power outages probably aren't common for most people but wanted to mention this since it really made me think twice about replacing gas with induction in this situation.

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  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Are you in MN? Haha we also just dealt with a 48 hour outage at the tail end of the holiday weekend. We're also planning on an induction stove when we rebuild in this location with a full or partial backup generator system tied to the panel. Here's what's influencing my thoughts and decisions on how to move forward.

    The vast majority of outages in my region are in the summer. We can grill for a couple of days and eat out if we're tired of cooking that way. Currently we also don't have water without power (well water), so the well will definitely go on a backup generator when we rebuild. Worst case we also have a Coleman camp stove we could use in the kitchen in top of the induction range.

    We're debating full versus partial backup generator currently. My thought is we don't need to size for a 50A range, 50A hot tub, welder, etc for the mostly rare and mostly less than 6 hour outages we have. If you size for the full panel, my understanding is the generator runs at that max level all the time, wasting a lot of fuel. Doesn't matter if you're only needing 2000W, it's going to run at 20KW or whatever it's rated for. We need water, lights, heat, and some outlet circuits, maybe our modem and router and TV haha.

    On that note, even with a partial backup generator or standard run extension cords to the generator situation we have now, my thought is we could run an instant pot or crock pot or hot plate if we want to cook indoors.

    Note I'm still learning about this, but that's where I'm leaning in planning our 2023 rebuild on this property (and having grown up rural nearly all my life and dealing with outages)

  • 4 years ago

    Yup - MN - Crow Wing Power. We have the well water/septic issue too. I've been through a two day and a three day outage and I'm getting too old for "glamping".

  • 4 years ago

    We get infrequent week-long power outages from storms, about once every two or three years. We have a portable generator that runs on gasoline. We've wired the house so we can run the hot water heater, the fridge, &, in winter, the blower in our fireplace insert from the generator. Only those three necessities. So no induction cooking, but I'd much rather have hot water & a working fridge. (& a heat source in frigid weather.) In power outages, I'll unplug the fridge (it'll be fine unpowered for an hour) & plug in an electric skillet if needed for meals. I won't run both at the same time so as not to overload the generator.


    Fortunately our 40 yr old septic system, still in very good condition, doesn't need electricity for a pump.

  • 4 years ago

    We are building on the coast of the Pacific Northwest in an unincorporated area, and yeah, this is exactly why we finally decided to go with gas. We get regular enough power outages in the winter. We haven’t even broken ground yet (still in the permit process, but living in the area) and we already have our Bluestar range ordered. (With all of the proper ventilation as well) We had to go with LP as natural gas isn’t available at all here. Thankfully, our road is the first in our area to get power back during an outage, but only because it’s the road that the water district has to use to get to the plant. (Also the first to get cleared of fallen trees too, yay!) But still, power outages happen fairly regularly and I didn’t want the inconvenience of it interrupting my cooking.

  • 4 years ago

    Generators of any reasonable design will run at a constant rotational speed so that they generate 60 Hz power, but the mechanical load varies with electrical load, and when the electrical load is low the rate of fuel usage needed to maintain rotational speed is proportionately low. Overall generator efficiency will be slightly lower at low power generation due to the fixed friction in the mechanical system, but the fuel usage is not constant independent of load.

    Propane-fueled should require less maintenance over time than gasoline or diesel.

    You can size for the needed load (plus required 20%) and use a load shedding relay to disconnect loads that you don't need. This does require two panels and a big relay that continuously operates under normal power. The relay is controlled by the transfer switch electronics.