Artist: I just placed an order on Austin Rose website. Mustead Woods is appearing as own root for bare root, shipping in next spring.

Would it do well as bare root or is it better to look for potted?

I had a Love Song bareroot and it died but it may have been related to a flooding I accidentally did on it a while ago.

All of my other roses that did well were potted bought from the store.

Any alternative with that color that would also do well in the vase?

@Kristine LeGault 8a pnw,

I heard nice things about Memorial day but I wonder if my fellow humidity-plagued Southerners could confirm its viability. : )

I learned that without a consistent spray regimen they all succumb to black spot no matter how disease resistant for my area they've been touted to be.

The only ones that seem to do fine are the Drifts and a double pink Knock Out at the mail box but then again, the latter I just planted it a few months ago, too early to tell. But even those don't stay spotless.

Otherwise, they are all defoliated by August.

My recommendation is Princess Charlene de Monaco. She’s big, healthy and fragrant. Plus she is never without blooms!

@oursteelers 8B PNW,

It seems to look like Augusta Luise minus the headache of getting it. So nice! I would go straight for it if I didn't realize I actually want a strong red there so it will create a mass with some reds I already have in the spot - as it is a more landscapy area there.

I thought of Bordeaux Citiscape but then I realized it might be too short for that little valley.

I don’t have a lot of experience with reds but Black Caviar had a lot to recommend it for a first year plant.

Kristine - wow!! We need to see you post pics of your Memorial Day more often!! Gorgeous!!

Love song does not like my FL humidity. It killed one and my second one dwindles in the summer.

Poseidon or plum perfect are much better. Quicksilver is flawless here but its a climber.

Good reds for me are Don Juan and Munstead Wood.

Teasing Georgia is a great disease free yellow.

Spirit of Freedom, Olivia, & Bathsheba are always blooming here. Princess Charlene de Monaco is also good!

@sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)

I just purchased Munstead Wood and Bordeaux Citiscape. They are both shorter than what I wanted but it is what it is.

I have no idea how resistant to BS Munstead is (probably not) but with that bloom and color...I just simply could not skip this one. I got Olivia for health and blooming power but over the summer it shut down and lost almost all of its leaves. Now it's back at about 50-60% leaves but still. On the disappointed side wit Olivia, never mind the thin stems and the nodding.

I agree with Kristine that Memorial Day would make a big impressive low maintenance plant . I’d also consider Queen of Elegance, she seems fool proof with strong blackspot resistance, and has terrfic dense foliage and is extremely generous with bloom.

I would just say to give Olivia some time. It took three years for me to understand why Kristine always raved about this one

Thank you BenT!

What about Summer Romance? Someone in my area has it and raves over her. I've seen videos, and it looks amazing.

Summer Romance is very disease resistant , but in my hot humid Texas summer, it shuts down completely after the spring flush. NOT ONE SINGLE bloom for about 6 months on a perfectly healthy 4 year old , six foot plant.

How about Mr.Lincon ?

He grew very tall and bloomed a lot and stayed almost healthy for me . I got tired of him as he was turning into a tree so I s/p him .

Memorial Day was huge and thornless , bloomed a lot but thrips ruined the blooms and had black spot issues , so I s/p him too .

I have Kordes Grand Amore new this year , supposed to be tall & narrow .

I have Munstead Woods on Fortuniana , it is healthy . throws 6 ft long octopus like branches that have vicious thorns , color is fushia most of year except winter months .

I had Bordeaux own root , it was healthy and very small maybe 3 ft tall but the blooms were very small for me , it died eventually .

@BenT (NorCal 9B Sunset 14)

Good to know about Summer Romance. It looked amazing in the garden of the lady in my area but then again that was an April-May Garden and mine doesn't look horrible either at that time. Spring works. I need to see summer.

Here are some pictures from my garden from May.

Easy Does It

Good as Gold (gorgeous one time in Spring and that's it)

Dee-lish - first year in the ground, not too many blooms yet.

Olivia Rose. Healthy until summer proves it otherwise.

The Drifts throw a ball - the only ones that can keep going throughout the summer, not quite like this but they keep up reasonably well.

Plum Perfect - relatively healthy, love the color, but stingy bloomer, no coverage

Dick Clark - the tallest I have, a rather garish color which I don't really like but does well until summer hits and it too gets all naked.

Climbing Pinkie - one flush in spring then pure defoliation. I end up with naked rambling canes.

So after all that Spring party it's pretty much over, other than the Drifts. Now they are coming back but the action is minimal.

Urgh.

I need to make some more space in the middle of the lawn where there's sun throughout the day, I need an irrigation system, maybe more fertilizing, and religious spraying.

That is - A LOT!!

@Pink Rose(9b, FL )

I am so surprised to hear Munstead grows so tall! It's supposed to be a shortie, no? Well, magenta or not, I am crazy about that rose, whether darker/deeper or going into lighter raspberry/magenta. So I got it bare root for Spring 2023. May I find a good place for it and may it battle my BS to the best of its abilities. Either way, I need to make it work because I was lusting over the darn thing.

I have limited space and time so every year I keep telling myself "That's it. Done. Take care of what you have, commit to what IS and be done."

Yeah right.

You see something and then it's pure lust. I hope this doesn't offend anyone (disclaimer as it is necessary in our times)...but I swear this must be like (some) men getting distracted by...well, very attractive women. Instead of focusing on what they have at home (lol)...they want to try those other ones too. Just a little bit. Plenty of love to go around (lol).

That's me with these roses even as I know I CAN'T KEEP ORDERING due to various limitations. Now I am thinking to modify my lawn because well...too much grass. Go figure. One big lot with a tiny circle in the middle with a dogwood and some day lilies around. Sun is blasting down all day on that large area and I keep looking for a decent spot for a rose anywhere but there - all over it's a bit of shade, tree roots etc. Unacceptable.

Some of that lawn grass really needs to go. Once again: the consequences of lust. :)

Artist

Your roses look beautiful .

I think my Munstead Wood is big because its on Fotuniana rootstock which is a climber . It stays healthy .

Definitely make a bed in all day sun spot , will help with disease .