The name has been trademarked. The royalties will continue past the patent.

I cant even beging to guess. I just know he deserves every penny of it. After trying to grow over 600 roses in only the past 6 years, the knockouts I have are still top performers in every way. I definitely need to try the white one soon. I do wish they had a very double white rose in their line up.

i am growing double reds in only 4 hours of sun in an area that faces north and is shaded by the house on the south and the garage on the west. They are growing with hydrangeas and performing wonderfully without spray. Not many roses in my climate can do that.

after a month of no rain my Annabelle’s dried out instead of turning green. the knockouts just doing their thing

Last winter after my oak lost the leaves

@dianela7analabama,

I can't wait to see how the double pink performs next spring at the mailbox.

Do you fertilize it and water it just like all others or you do kind of let it fend for itself?

@Artist-FKA-Novice Zone 7B GA

I used to water all my plants twice a week deeply (I do not have a sprinkler system). These pictures are from last late fall and this summer with only rain water. I stopped all garden care when my baby was born January 2021 (zero fertilizer and water). Of course we get 50 inches of rain a year so it isn’t like we normally have much water shortage. Tho we had a hot and unusually dry summer this year and they did pretty well. It was dry enough several of my endless summer hydrangea perished this year.

I look forward to hearing how the double pinks perform for you. I have been wanting to try some in the future as well as the white ones. My only problem with the knockouts are not with the plants, but with all the terrible irresponsible landscapers that planted them in public areas and left them unattended. Now we have thousands of RRD infected roses all over town and it makes me cringe 😬when I see them.

Waow. I was not aware of that. I see KO-s everywhere around here too - some look good, others excellent as a large pop of color, others look draggy at the end of the season.

I never saw anyone fussing over them in public spaces.

You would hope they'll remove the infected roses asap.

Moses,

Not sure if Will Radler owns the patents /trademarks or if they belong to Star Roses. I’d also hope he got his just due.

Dianela,

That’s my problem with KO’s too. That they have been promoted to be planted en masse in areas that are RRD infested. They are the main vector of the disease in many cities and suburbs, you see RRD infected KOs everywhere. And Star Roses just keeps pushing this mass landscaping practice, as though the issue did not exist at all. They are probably hoping when these KOs die their customers will head to the big box store and buy some more.

One of the biggest plusses of moving from TX to CA is that there is no RRD to worry about!

Someone did write a thesis with the conclusion that RRD has difficulty spreading in arid/mediterranean climates, I 100% believe this is true, there must be a million rosebushes around me here in Nor Cal and I have not seen one stem of RRD. When I lived in TX I couldn’t walk a block without encountering a grotesque RRD Knock Out.

@dianela7analabama,

Wiser words never spoken.

A couple of years ago I gave up the idea of making the strip along the driveway alive with roses with beautiful individual blooms. The idea is nice, of course, and I have seen such bushes smothered in gorgeous individual blooms which would suggest it is possible to have several glorious rose bushes of the same kind next to each other and just landscape with them.

In realty, it doesn't play out like that. Otherwise, we'd see this arrangement everywhere.

They take breaks, defoliate, go stingy on bloom, etc.

I learned it's either Knock-Outs or Drifts. For my needs, the latter fit the bill better and they do work and perform on and on. Not so all others, except Spring and thereafter, a bloom here and there, and a few more in the Fall. But no coverage for landscaping.

Thats right Ben. I would go as far as saying The knockout line turned out so good that it resulted in general harm to rose gardeners who do tend to their roses. Of course this is no fault of the breeder or the roses. They are top notch plants.

@dianela7analabama

I almost got Bordeaux this year but then I opted for Flamenco Rosita bc I needed something larger in that spot. Now I am afraid she will be too large.

Bordeaux looks so beautiful, way prettier blooms than the KO-s.

@Artist-FKA-Novice Zone 7B GA

Flamenco Rosita is definetely an amazing rose. It works well for landscaping also. I am currently using it in front of my house.

I just got Flamenco Rosita from Heirloom and I really like her! The blooms are a really bright shade of pink for me and she is covered in blooms already. I like the way the color pops in the yard from a distance.

I like the Knockout roses pretty well, but they don't quite grab my interest. Which is partly due to the prevalence of the Double Red Knockout everywhere in the eastern US. I mean, if you just got here from another planet, you would think it was its own species. I also would prefer more and nicer scent, and a bush form with a bit more ... "something".

But having said all that, when I pass one, it usually has blooms on it, and that's worth a lot! And when I bought a couple of shrubs for my parents, I bought that same Double Red, because I wanted something that would give back more than it takes in care. The only issue they have had so far is animals eating them.

I do like the bloom and bush form of that Citiscape Bordeaux even better. If it can compete in rebloom, disease resistance, and hardiness, it's certainly worth a look.

@Meg Meg

I have ordered it from them too and it's due to ship next week.

I am quite excited but I have a dilemma, since Rosita came up. I hope it is OK to ask the question here without hijacking the thread.

My question is: should I dare to place Rosita in this spot where it only has 5 feet to grow between two other roses (2-3 ft on each side), and also another 2 feet or so from a rose in front of her?

Here is the spot:

The gap in the picture appears large than it is. I heard Rosita needs lots of space because it tends to get large (some even said 10 ft. wide but the Heirloom description said 5).

However, my experience indicate that in this bed roses seem to stay smaller than described, probably because they compete with the roots of a tree nearby.

(Please pardon the naked fashion of Dick Clark, I pruned the living lights out of it due to cane borers).

I wouldn't mind having a bush here to fill all that gap and provide a bit more privacy between us and the neighbors. I seem to photograph their garbage can every time I try to take some pictures of this bed. I just hope she will not grow crazy big and engulf the other three roses around her.

(On her left in the back, Julia Child, on he right Dee-Lish, in front of her Dick Clark).

Any opinions would be greatly appreciated and do let me know if I should move the topic to a new thread if posters would prefer that.

Thank you so much!

Flamenco rosita got around 8 feet wide in TN for Lilyfinch. It was probably a relatively young rose also. She sold her property and is now gardening in California so no telling how wide the rose got after several year. If you are willing to prune her regularly you maybe be able to keep her in bounds, otherwise it is probably too large. The one I saw at the Biltmore gardens in north calorina was huge.

I am thinking to cancel the order...