Miele is the shallowest we found (around 22.5" I think) when we had this problem trying to fit a dishwasher into vintage cabinetry. We ended up doing a full reno and replacing the cabinetry to eliminate that constraint, though. How deep are the cabinets you're trying to work with?

It's a long story

My cabinets are 24inch

But the drain for my sink needs to run outside the wall(exterior wall) behind the dishwasher. I thought about putting in 27inch counter tops and bumping out the cabinets but there's a window on that wall and it might be tough to reach and open if the countertops are that deep. Small kitchen not a lot of space. If I can find a shallow dishwasher I'm going to have to install an 18inch wide on the otherwise of the sink which I don't want

I've seen the miele, but have heard horror stories about there products

Thanks though I'll check it out

• FOTILE SD2F-P3 2-IN-1 In-Sink Dishwasher, Amazon

With stainless steel doors:

• Smeg STU8649X
• Asko DBI663IS
• Asko DBI663ISSOF

We've had a Miele dishwasher for 12 years and have had no issues with it--as far as I know their dishwashers (and also washer/dryers) are still very well regarded. Other European brands may be similarly sized, though. Not sure any will give you enough clearance behind for a 2" drain, unfortunately.

I thought if I could install the dishwasher flush with the countertop

24inch cabinets

25inch counter top

1 inch over hang

22 inch dishwasher

Would give me 3inch in the back

From the dishwashers I've seen most have water, drain, electric run from the back through a small channel and hookup near the front

I know it's a long shot but the 18inch dishwasher I would have to install otherwise is just too small

Thanks for the comment

"From the dishwashers I've seen most have water, drain, electric run from the back through a small channel and hookup near the front"

"5.2 Connections
"Install the dishwasher so as to allow connections through the adjacent unit. These connections must never be behind the dishwasher.
"The inlet and drain hoses can be pointed in all directions. make sure that they are not bent, crushed or too tight. Tighten the ring nut after pointing the hoses in the required direction." -- Smeg STU8649X Installation Manual

I've had 9 Miele appliances over the last 12 years. Three of them DW and no issues with any of them. Best to use the Miele DW detergent and salt for best performance.

I also had a Miele washer and dryer for 10 years (left with the house when we sold/moved) and I did have at least one service call per year, but they were easily/quickly fixed by Miele. I had young kids at the time and the W & D pretty much got used every single day.

Thanks everyone for your comments

I'm going to the store tomorrow to look at a bosch and miele

First time using this site, couldn't have asked for a better experience .... really appreciate it

Check the required opening sizes on the spec sheet of the Miele G7106SCUSS, the only stainless steel Miele dishwasher available at AJ Madison.