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Desperately Seeking a Sofa Arrangement

3 years ago

Hi to all the Houzz Community! - Looking for some help on size and placement in my living room. I have no sofa right now, the reason for my desperation. Redecorating the whole space. Sorry its a mess!

After much deliberation, it seems like the best place for a sofa is under the windows. If I slide the sofa down towards the archway and add 2 chairs perpendicular to windows will this look off? Trying to get seating closer to TV. Appreciate any suggestions.


Room in about 19 feet long by 11.5 deep (before the stairway). Double window about 80 inches, centered on wall.


One last question. How on earth do we buy a sofa online without looking at it!!!! I see alot of things online but seems like such a risk that I won't like it. I understand the whole swatch option, but really does not help to much in my opinion. Any suggestions for good online stores? I like Pottery Barn but a little pricy. York and Carlisle . Article Sven looked yummy, but lots of bad press.

Wayfair, ugh, reviews are all over the place....

thanks!!!

Karen




Comments (34)

  • 3 years ago

    Go to a local furniture store and look and try out the sofas. Draw a floor plan with measurements and windows & doors marked.

    I would use the left side of the double windows to the right corner for sofa placement and then 2 chairs with a table between at the front single window. Much larger rug. Floor lamp in right corner. End table with lamp to the left of double windows.


    Karen Weiss thanked jck910
  • 3 years ago

    thanks so much, yes, the rug is a postage stamp and I intend on changing it. When you say "right corner of the sofa" are you saying start by putting the sofa on the left side of the double window and let it travel down the room? if I buy a 91 inch sofa in this scenario, it would not be center under the window, which is not a bad thing, I guess I am just not sure how it would feel if not symmetrical. I have gone to Raymour and Flannagan, Ashley, Gamburgs. Can't hit on anything I like. Maybe I am picky. Seems to be much more selection online

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    The stairs don't necessarily need to be open to the room. Move the TV to the right by closing off the stairwell with a standing TV unit. Voila, more wall space. Then the sofa can be under the windows and centered to the TV.


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    Karen Weiss thanked tracefloyd
  • 3 years ago

    oh ok, nice idea!! never thought of that

  • 3 years ago

    Cool, I'm adding more photos as I find them but you get the idea. Good luck, Happy Thanksgiving!

    Karen Weiss thanked tracefloyd
  • 3 years ago

    My suggestion is to center the sofa on the double windows facing the stairs. I don’t think I would get a sofa that is 91” long. I would go for something shorter than that. Your room is not huge. I would look carefully at the measurement of all the sofas you like. Height, seat depth, width of arms. I would recommend something with track arms (narrow and squared off rather than soft and puffy). Go for a tailored style. Classic lines. At the front end of the sofa (the end towards your front door) I would place an end table with a lamp or a tall light. Now, turn the corner and place your two chairs facing towards the dining room, with their backs toward the front entrance. You need to measure out the optimum size for your rug, leaving space for walking to the dining room between the rug and the stair wall. And big enough so that your chairs and your sofa can rest their front legs on the rug. Use painters tape to tape things out. Or mock things up using newspapers, cardboard, etc. for size. Do NOT buy large pieces of furniture online. You really need to sit in it and understand its scale. Think apartment size not gigantic family room sectional recliner size for your nice living room. And…center your tv on the stair wall. It doesn’t need a large entertainment unit. Your stairs is lovely. A console that is 1/3 larger than the length of your tv would be fine. Good luck!

  • 3 years ago

    Wow ptreckel thank you so much for these suggestions and advise. I did think a smaller sofa was my gut instinct - 84" or so. And i do love my steps and banister and would be hard to cover that even though it was a good idea. I do like that feature of my room and like to decorate it for Christmas. 8x 10 rug seems like a fit (I usually count the squares on the floor to figure things out LOL since they are 12x12) but tape is the way to go.... thank you so much. I will visit more stores to see if I can find a sofa that works. Happy Thanksgiving.

  • 3 years ago

    Thanks to everyone who gave advise, Have a wonderful Thanksgiving!


  • 3 years ago

    One last question - Does anyone have opion on slipcover sofas? I have seen some square arm slipcover at Pottery Barn that seem nice and classic. I am single with one dog and do like the lighter color sofas they show at POttery Barn

  • 3 years ago

    Please do not get an entertainment center type piece of furniture. It will overwhelm the space. I would not block the stairs/railing, it will make it seem like the furniture does not fit.


    " When you say "right corner of the sofa" are you saying start by putting the sofa on the left side of the double window and let it travel down the room? "

    Yes that layout is what I am suggesting. But not a 91" sofa. Placed like this you won't need to block the stairs/railing And it not being symmetrical isn't as obvious.

    Karen Weiss thanked jck910
  • 3 years ago

    Question for you regarding a slip covered sofa from PB or anyone else, for that matter…. What kind of dog do you have? Does s/he shed? How big is your dog? Do you permit it on your furniture? If you go for slipcovers, get something that is washable, preferably in an indoor/outdoor fabric like Sunbrella. Yes, it will cost more, but you won’t have to worry (as much) about stains from muddy paws, etc. (Again, I know from experience! ;>)

    Karen Weiss thanked ptreckel
  • 3 years ago

    I suggest you wall mount TV on a fully articulated arm so it is adjustable. Place it where the desk is and move the desk just right of the dining room doorway. Put the gray table on the other side of the doorway. Float a sofa perpendicular to the center of the double window with the TV chest behind it as a sofa table if it isn't too tall. Angle your armchair by the front door instead of the wicker trunk and pillow, and use the floor lamp with it for a reading corner. Then measure for a rug to slip under the front 1/3 - 1/2 of the sofa and to anchor the chair as well. Does your little electric stove sit there year round or do you move it out in warm weather? The white table looks to be an outdoor piece, and the gray slipper chair is for the bedroom, so those should go, IMO.

    Karen Weiss thanked decoenthusiaste
  • 3 years ago

    Yes I do allow the little guy on the sofa, he does not shed. Thanks for the suggestion I have seen the Sunbrella on the list of fabrics at PB. I value other experience!



  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    karen, I did the article sven and am happy with it. to be fair, I don't use it daily, but when it arrived I was surprised at how well built it was made and the quality of the leather. (also comes in a velvet)

    I've since gotten a lighter rug, but here it is in the black leather, the bench and the walnut chair


    I think it's comfortable.

    I love this one w/the chaise, which will give you more room. I think the back pillows are what gets the poor review? you can always have those 'restuffed' if it starts to sag.




    With your parquet floors, this color would look so good! try the boho style of decor if you like.

    the green or blue velvet would also look nice w/the wood.

    I think you need a diff rug altogether. one that's larger, diff color/pattern. more of a natural material and simple design would look better against your floor.

    this overall look is also nice.


    apply a leather conditioner on the material to keep it supple (or just use the throw to sit on) if getting the sven charme

    https://www.thezoereport.com/living/article-velvet-sven-sofa-review



    On my other sofa w/a velvet material, I actually lay down a throw to sit on so as to keep it looking newer.

    Karen Weiss thanked Beth H. :
  • 3 years ago

    Thanks to everyone. I decided to put the sofa under the windows and the green chair to back (and perpendicular) of door, like and L shape. Coffee table in front. I will measure to see if 2 smaller chairs will fit, but I live alone, so 1 chair there will be fine. Then get a different chair to replace the slipper chair and keep it on an angle in the corner (maybe a swivel chair in that spot). I also could get a low, longer tv fireplace unit on the stair wall. And mount the TV above it as someone suggested. I really love my little fireplcace and use it all year, but could find another spot in the house for it. Now comes the tricky part...finding a sofa I like. I don't know why its so hard! I am probably making it harder than has to be. Thanks again

  • 3 years ago

    Beth thanks for all the photos your black sofa looks great! I do like the Sven and loved the blue and green velvet, they were the ones I had my eye on. Yes the back cushions were my concern. How can they be restuffed if needed? Do you buy new cushions from Article? Or somewhere else? thanks for the photos they really help


  • 3 years ago

    Beth the rug is going!! It was a cheap rug from Ross and I want to replace with a natural rug like the picture you show or something with a toned down design. or maybe plain and layer on top of it another rug.... decisions, decisions



  • 3 years ago

    Thanks for this idea. I thought about a loveseat like this, but they seemed too big. I did not see any this size, but it's a great look you created in this diagram. Here is a pic of the tv wall. It is about 65 inches to the bump out and stairs are 50 inches. THe piece of junk the TV is sitting on is 43 inches long. I just tried to pull up tv stand to the bump out and put the slipper chair next to it. But seems not enough space for this. These photos really show how badly I need to start ordering furniture! WHat a mess.




  • 3 years ago

    Also the double window is in the center of the long wall. If I were to put in the loveseat idea with sofa table, which I really like, everything would have to shift to the right, towards the dining room to allow enough space. This means the sofa would not be center under the windows. This is part of the struggle with this space. The windows. If I ignore the windows and don't center the sofa underneath, this would work. WOuld that look right? Or does the sofa need to be centered on windows. My feeling is yes, but I am open to other ideas since I am not a designer.

  • 3 years ago

    Centering a sofa on a window is great if it works. Sometimes it just doesn’t. I have a sofa not centered on a large window. I struggled with it, but finally decided that a functional furniture arrangement was more important than a centered sofa.

    Karen Weiss thanked jlouise54
  • 3 years ago

    Center the sofa. Place ONE chair angled towards the tv from the left end of the sofa. Get a nice tv stand that measures from the corner to that tiny little bump out at the beginning of your stairs. (Measure that length.). A console will be thinner than what you are using now, I think. What is the white cord coming down the stairs. Any way to relocate that, or at least capture it so that it is less obvious if it needs to be there. One comfortable chair and a nice couch is a good basic start. A rug beneath them to anchor the room. A console for your tv, perhaps with storage beneath it for your things. Then add as you see fit. Art. Plants. Lighting, etc. You are on your way!

  • 3 years ago

    Good morning, the wire is an antenna. I need to clean it up. I went to PB room planner and mapped the space as you suggested. I came up with a few plans. I do have a bit of an entryway that is not represented in the plan below, so I don't think the chair facing the door would not be an issue. I think either of these would work. I am single and its mostly me in the space so I will have no issue with tv watching. When I have company I can angle the tv into the room if its mounted. Is the sofa too small??? its the York from PB - 80 inch. Would love to put 84-88 inch to get more seating. What do you think?



  • 3 years ago

    This is fun. can I play with floor plans for living????....LOL

    I added an 8x10 rug. I don't think the demesions are exact but close



  • 3 years ago

    Good for you!!! You could go 84” mark how far beyond your windows on both sides that would go. Then add 2” more and see 88”. Do you plan on draperies for your double window? They could stack beyond the trim work. The biggest issue is how adding “ to your sofa will push the chair closer to the entrance door. Love your renderings!

    Karen Weiss thanked ptreckel
  • 3 years ago

    Ok I will try that measuring with tape. The curtains are going. Basically, I need to get rid of everything in the room but a few items. I hear ya on the sofa issue, the bigger I get on the sofa gets, the closer to the door. I want to add drapes from ceiling to floor, one on each side, of sofa like this picture. I also love the shades, but my windows are not deep. Its and old house (1942). I only have about 1 inch of depth for a shade.


  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Move the TV and stand that you already have to the right and it won't block the stairs as much...Just somewhat. Wouldn't hurt to try, you can always move it back to the corner if you don't like it or just at Christmas.

    Karen Weiss thanked tracefloyd
  • 3 years ago

    i believe any upholstery place could restuff them when they start to sag. not a big deal.

    check w/article and see if they ahve a warranty.


    didn 't you post something about your window a few months back? is this the same person? lol

    Karen Weiss thanked Beth H. :
  • 3 years ago

    Hi Beth thanks for the information. THis is my first post, so much have been someone else.

    THanks!

  • 3 years ago

    We’ll help you search for some low profile shades/blinds for your vintage windows. Ones like you posted would look great! With simple linen draperies stacked on either side, just like the photo. Classic. Happy Thanksgiving!

    Karen Weiss thanked ptreckel
  • 3 years ago

    thank so much happy thanksgiving!!

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Here is a DIY TV stand that you or somone handy could build easily. Custom fit the TV and not block much of the stairwell. You won't see the back of the TV at least. Link below



    https://ninered.blogspot.com/2013/08/how-to-build-tv-stand.html

  • 3 years ago

    Ok Trace, thank you I will check it out

  • 3 years ago

    Put it on wheels.