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Okay to stack a 24" CSO over a 30" convection oven?

3 years ago

I've selected the Wolf E series CSO 24" and the same series 30" convection oven. I don't need a 30" steam oven, and I don't want to pay the extra ~$1500 just for the appearance... I can't think it would cost much to fabricate some ss trim around the 24"--but maybe that's wrong? And will it look weird?

Anyone have a photo of something like that?


Here's an elevation, but it shows two 30" stacked ovens (the KD would prefer that of course!). Stainless drawers are planned above and below it to match the fridge.




Comments (24)

  • 3 years ago

    I don't think I would do those stainless drawers. You aren't going to be able to use the one above as it is too high to be a drawer. Just have those match your cabinets, it will look better that way.

    I would also spend the extra money to have both appliances be 30". Miele used to sell a trim kit for their 24" CSO over a 30" oven and it never looked great. They now also offer a 30" CSO for stacked installations.

    2rickies thanked chispa
  • 3 years ago

    @chispa I may be wrong about that; it might just be a stainless panel above the oven. It made sense when the KD showed it to me in a color/3d rendering. But yeah, if it's a drawer that would not be useful! I was planning to get Miele, but I had to change b/c no one services that brand in the area where we're building. Switched to Wolf for the CSO, and for the 30" it's a lot more $$ than the same size Miele. For every decision there seems to be a "we should really do this instead" thing that costs more. I can see how easy it is to go over budget!

  • 3 years ago

    Fabricating something that will look decent and last will be an expensive endeavor IF you can even find someone with the skill.


    Get the 30".

  • 3 years ago

    No to the upper stainless “drawer.” Yes to a hatch like application with side hinges that open the front panel up towards the ceiling. At least the space could be used for sheet pans, etc.

  • 3 years ago

    We just have run of the mill kitchen aid in our home but we have a similar set up. This is a pic for reference. I wouldn’t want anymore stainless steel at all.

  • 3 years ago

    @WestCoast Hopeful that looks great! I am guessing that's a trim kit around the m/w. Unfortunately wolf doesn't make one.


    @ptreckel yes, good idea. It could open to the left, I think that would work.


    The KD had originally suggested that whole wall be stainless, including the upper cabinets, and then she changed her mind and just made it stainless to line up with the fridge. I think you all are right, though, better to do the normal cabinet fronts (which I think will be white oak slab style on the perimeter). Might make sense if I were doing a built-in fridge, but I'm not, it's cabinet-depth FD, much like WestCoast's. Not to mention, I hate cleaning ss. Even if there aren't many fingerprints (eg on a chimney hood), the dust gets very visible.

  • 3 years ago

    Yes this is a trim kit. I bet you can get one made.

  • 3 years ago

    If you hate cleaning stainless then I wouldn't add any more than you have to. I have cabinet panels on every appliance that offered one, because I really hate to clean stainless!

  • 3 years ago

    Call Miele an ask them what they'll do for service.

  • 3 years ago

    Are you sure they don’t make a trim kit? Google suggests they do.

    2rickies thanked WestCoast Hopeful
  • 3 years ago

    @WestCoast Hopeful they used to make one, until they came out with the newer 30" wide models, which are also larger inside than the 24" (I think they used to be all the same size inside). They do have trim kits for m/w's and maybe for speed ovens. Could that be what you saw?


    @dan1888 I have talked with Miele, and I've talked with the service co's that used to repair Miele in my area. Miele says they only guarantee they'll help me find service while under warranty, which would be max 5 years. After that, when it's my turn to pay for service, Miele might help call around and try to convince someone who's far away to come out to us, but they don't offer any incentives for a place to, say, drive 60 miles to provide service on one appliance. If there's a charge for that extra mileage, it would be charged to me. (Vs Wolf, where apparently they will pay an extra mileage fee themselves even post-warranty--according to a repair company I spoke with.)

    The Miele rep also said some repair places will not prioritize us b/c of the distance, so they'll tell me they can't do it for 2-3 weeks, etc. I experienced that firsthand when a 15yo d/w broke down. Even though I'm currently in a large metro area, there were no certified repair people here. Someone came from a long way, and we waited about 10 days (it was going to be longer, but a customer canceled). I can understand why a place would not prioritize driving out to an area that's far away, which takes away from the number of appointments they can do the same day.

    I will be talking with someone in another department at Miele next week to see if I get a different answer.

  • 3 years ago

    Could you not make the trim kit work from a speed oven if same size?

  • 3 years ago

    @WestCoast Hopeful I just checked--they only have trim kits for the m/w. Very different. They're skinny vents rather than solid panels.

  • 3 years ago

    Shoot. Might be able to find an old one via Amazon that could work

  • 3 years ago

    Miele 24” CSO with trim kit and 30” CO underneath. i think it looks fine. I don’t know if the 30” CSO is taller as well as wider. For me, the extra width would not be as useful as extra height.

  • 3 years ago

    Photo didn‘t post


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  • 3 years ago

    sorry, I didn’t read the whole thread. Even though I just did my kitchen last year, it seems that they no longer make the trim kit. But one more thing. To my eye, having the three cabinets above being all the same size looks awkward. i would line up the two on the right with the fridge doors and make the third one on the left wider. If too big, then maybe some open shelves to break up the space.

  • 3 years ago
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    @nycbluedevil_gw Your oven stack looks nice--the trim kit is very well-integrated. Wish I could do that. I think you're right about those upper cabinets! I get the feeling the KD was trying to center them between the two upper outer cabinets that you can't really see in this pic that are on either side of the fridge and oven stack, but it looks goofy this way. Otoh, maybe there would need to be four doors--otherwise the one above the stove is over 30" wide. I should probably post a thread with my whole kitchen design before it's finalized. The layout is pretty well set, but there could be some things that need to change.

  • 3 years ago

    By the way, I just looked on Miele’s website and the EBA 6808 is available for sale. Thats the one I have. I think that calling it a 30” trim kit means that it is meant to turn the 24” into a 30”. So they still make it.

  • 3 years ago

    @nycbluedevil_gw, yes, Miele may have options, but I have no one to repair Miele ovens in my area, so I'm getting Wolf ovens.

  • 3 years ago

    The interior is the same sizein the 30” or the 24”.


    if you get the 24” and place it over the 30” oven it will not look good. if you are choosing this spendy brand dont cheap out and ruin the look. You can get a custom trim kit made but i would not go that route.


    get the 30” cso.


    good for you for choosing a brand that can be serviced easily!

    2rickies thanked ILoveRed
  • 3 years ago

    I used this company once when i had no choice but to use a custom trim kit. it was acceptable but will not look as good.

    https://www.microtrim.com/oven-fillers/

    2rickies thanked ILoveRed
  • 3 years ago

    @ILoveRed, I'm getting the 30"-- have been getting appliance dealer prices, and so far they are a lot less than what I thought it would be based on the mfr website list prices, so that's a relief. The Wolf 30" is not the same size inside as the 24"--not at least on the newer models; it's larger. I may not need the extra space often but when I do need it, it will be handy to have it. Right now I have a 30" convection oven and 36" gas range, and I wanted to downsize from that (and go all-electric). Either one will be less space than what I'm used to.