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3 years ago

We are working on a new build - think farmhouse modern (more modern but traditional lines). We're in an urban environment. I love the look of inset cabinetry with shaker front doors and slab front drawers. However, I want the house to have a clean modern feel, too (we're doing drywall returns, black window trim). I'm struggling with a cabinetry direction (and we don't have an unlimited budget) and would love to start a discussion to help me consider pros/cons.


We have an open floor plan, so kitchen cabinetry will relate to DR and LR cabinetry/bookcases. Floor will be a scandi-inspired white oak (maybe a Bona treatment). I'm using Arizona Flash in White as kitchen backsplash tile with soapstone surround (range and sink walls) and carrera on island. I'm a professionally trained chef (though I do not do this for work), so the kitchen is the heart of the home and will get a lot of use.


First - inset vs. panel front. Is there a structural or longevity/use benefit to using inset cabinetry? I feel like this is a classic style that will never die, but more and more folks are going a more modern direction. Will I tire of inset? I know it IS more expensive.


Second - I'm learning that solid wood cabinet fronts will last longer and look better with heavy use, as paint can ding/change color/wear with oily fingers/use over time. Anyone experience that? My original visual for the kitchen was white oak cabinets around the three walls and a navy blue island. I LOVE the warmth of real wood. I also know using solid wood IS more expensive.


Third - Mixing styles in a house. I'm a little worried about going more traditional in the kitchen (inset) but maybe more modern elsewhere in the house (flat front floating vanity in powder room, flat panel in LR, etc). Anyone have wisdom or advice here?


Fourth - I found a wonderful cabinet maker who has his own business and a team of 3-4 helping him. He doesn't necessarily do the kitchen design. I have a pretty good design sense, but I think it would be wise to engage a kitchen designer who is an expert in ensuring I'm maximizing space, anticipating design details, etc. I'm based in UT, but would imagine I can use anyone anywhere. Suggestions, recommendations on finding a designer to help me?


We know good cabinetry is an investment, and so I'm not taking my decisions lightly. And this is my first kitchen (dream kitchen) from scratch, so I want to ask ALL the questions.

Comments (8)

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    I'm learning that solid wood cabinet fronts will last longer and look better with heavy use, as paint can ding/change color/wear with oily fingers/use over time.


    I spec custom cabinets a lot, and most of my cabinetmakers will use wood veneer over maple cabinet boxes. Also, if the cabinetmaker has a finisher with a spray booth for painting instead of painting on site, the painted finish will be resistant to chipping and last a very long time.

  • 3 years ago

    Since you are concerned about dings, inset is not a good choice. With overlay, all the dings from a missed plate or overloaded spatula drawer that end up on the edges of an opening are covered by the door.


    You are going more modern with the rest of the house, so you have a good excuse to not do (traditional) inset cabinetry. Satisfy the need for classic inset with some beautiful furniture pieces--with inset doors--instead.

  • 3 years ago

    I had a lot of the same thoughts regarding longevity and decided to do unpainted quarter sawn white oak for all the cabs. Painting solid wood cabs is a bad idea because the wood will expand and contract (better to use MDF), but overall I believe stained wood, unpainted, will look nice longer than painted... In my current house the stained oak doors still look fine and are 40 years old.


    if you want to do 2 different countertops it would be more cohesive to do only one color cabinet anyway so just go with white oak.


    I love inset but as far as I know there's no benefit other than aesthetic.

  • 3 years ago

    I'll second the unrealistic cabinet allowance statement! We have a lot of cabinets and built-ins in our custom build and our builder estimated $64K. It seemed low to me, but we moved from a HCOL area to a lower COL area. When the actual quote came in from the cabinet company it was $140K. It also didn't help that covid happened between the estimate and the final quote. No going back at that point and you just keep writing those checks!

  • 3 years ago

    I have inset in my current kitchen but went with frameless full-overlay in the current remodel. They're both great in their own ways. I will say that you lose some storage space with the inset and +1 on the ding issue (ask me how I know). There's a lot of info here if you know how to search, about the pros/cons of inset, partial overlay and frameless.


    As far as mixing styles...I don't think what you have in the vanity has to match what you have in the kitchen. In fact I think it is a little more fun to move between spaces when each one has its own feel! But YMMV - the only one who really sees the house as a whole is you and the family. Guests only see what you want them to :)


  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    spend the money and do the white oak. it's a good long term investment and will always look good.

    you can save a bit by doing a full overlay instead of inset.

    do your navy island. with full drawers.

    the amish did these in red oak. full overlay


    here's your oak inset, farmhouse style


    inset rift sawn white oak


    white oak w/ white uppers? love all the drawers on the bottom


    depending on the layout, maybe you could do it like this

    quarter sawn^


    or what about this? white uppers, oak lowers, (overlay) and a painted island. in this case, it's green, but blue would also work. This is very pretty





    Rift Sawn white oak will cost a lot more.


    I love these islands that look like furniture, especially for farmhouse style


    or, save some money on the island w/the navy paint and a butcher block top.


  • 3 years ago

    @Beth H. : LOVE these — thr fourth photo from the top is actually the way im leaning. its called a modified inset. we hope to be in thr house for 20+ years and i want to invest in something that will last. i LOVE the white oak!!

  • 3 years ago

    @User we have a builder rebuilding on our existing lot. the budget is my own imposed on the project. we sre building a 3 story house (basement and main and second), in SLC.

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