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Epilobium angustifolium (Fireweed)?

This is the time of the year that catalogues for my go to nurseries are updating for 2023.


I came across this plant and I could imagine it in a "rough and tumble" area of a garden but having said that I have no experience with it. But knowing this group I bet some of you have seen it around.


Comments (22)

  • 3 years ago

    Yup, thats why I mentioned "rough and tumble".

  • 3 years ago

    It is impossible to cultivate here (I've tried multiple times).

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked dbarron
  • 3 years ago

    Any ideas as to what is the problem @dbarron....too dry?

  • 3 years ago
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    Too hot...it melts ;) (quite literally) This is a plant of the arboreal mountainous North.

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked dbarron
  • 3 years ago

    Epilobium/Chamerion angustifolia has a very wide native range and adaptability to a very wide range of habitats. You can find it growing all over the US except in the extreme Southeastern or Southwestern portions of the country.

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
  • 3 years ago
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    Chamaenerion angustifolium ==plants.usda.gov. Doesn't look that widespread to me ;)


    And that about typifies where I've seen it.

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked dbarron
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    I quite like this plant. Makes the roadside ditches beautiful in mid-summer. My attempts to grow it, even in my 'rough and tumble' parts of the yard have mostly failed. It doesn't last long and never really spread. Perhaps it's my poor, sandy soil.


    With the wide native range, it might be best to source plants grown from a local seed source if possible.

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked pennlake
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    From the USDA: Fireweed is widespread in the northern US and Canada from Labrador to Alaska. In America its distribution extends south along the eastern mountain chain into N. Carolina (Myerscough and Whitehead 1966) and in the west down the Cordilleran range into California and New Mexico.



    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
  • 3 years ago

    Makes the roadside ditches beautiful in mid-summer


    I for sure see lots of "Joe Pye Weed" in ditches in our area but I'm not sure I recall seeing any "Fireweed".

  • 3 years ago

    Well I can definitely say that even your map GG, those states are mountainous and it's probably found at elevation.

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked dbarron
  • 3 years ago
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    This from the Prairie Moon website could be the other part of my problem. I tried planting them in those rough and tumble areas that were already growing with rough and tumble plants like Solidago.

    The one thing it can't handle, however, is competition. If other species are allowed to grow in and over top it, Fireweed will quickly succumb.

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked pennlake
  • 3 years ago

    " The one thing it can't handle, however, is competition. "

    Does not appear to be an issue here :-) Since it is considered to be a weed in the PNW, it seems to have NO difficulty popping up in the middle of other plantings!! It will even seed itself into planted containers and if you do not stay on top of it, it can rapidly take over a perennial border.


    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
  • 3 years ago

    I planted bare root fireweed and like Debarron I was not able to cultivate it. I think it was because it was too hot. Monarda citriodora is easier for a plant with similar height and flower color imo. But fireweed might do better up in Canada?

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked Jay 6a Chicago
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    But fireweed might do better up in Canada?

    I think I will try one plant this season...it will be an 'experiment'.

  • 3 years ago

    It is usually known here as Rosebay Willowherb and is a common weed/wild flower forming huge patches on waste gound and along railways. If it likes your conditions it will quickly self sow via the wind blown seeds. There is a white version which I believe is more docile.

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    It should do well. According to Grow Me Instead, fireweed is a recommended alternative to Dame's rocket, Hesperis matronalis, which IS a listed invasive species in Ontario.

    Based on that, one can assume the plant behaves quite differently for me :-)

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Fireweed seems to do well in Minnesota so it should do well in Canada. When I think of alternatives for Dame's rocket the plant that comes to mind is the native purple rocket Iodanthus pinnatifidus.


    Iodanthus pinnatifidus

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked Jay 6a Chicago
  • 3 years ago

    forming huge patches on waste gound and along railways.


    So @floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK...sounds like the same locales that invasive buddleia do well in.


  • 3 years ago
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    Epilobium angustifolia grows in and around my property filling spaces between the native hazelnuts, does not bloom for particularly long and seeds out into cultivated beds and must be promptly removed for its aggressive spreading habit. It's fine for naturalized planting, but not something I'd set my heart upon! Where as epilobium latifolium (below) knocked my socks off seeing this dwarf beauty blooming among the alpine flowers of Jasper National Park. I acquired seed and grew it as a front of the border plant that flourished for several years, the rather large stunning blooms are produced for about a month or longer, photo does not do justice!

    Epilobium latifolium, photo from the net.


    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked FrozeBudd_z3/4
  • 3 years ago

    Excellent @FrozeBudd_z3/4. Thank you.

  • 3 years ago
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    I am very fond of epilobium angustifolium and have had many attempts to grow the beautiful white flowered version (E.angustifolium album). Evidently, it is far too dry where I am, and it dislikes my soil...whereas I have no problems whatsoever growing the weedy tetragonum and parviflorum. Or somewhat stunted versions of e.hirsutum (codlins and cream) which is an enthusiastic grower around my wood. I vaguely recall trying to grow a cream coloured, procumbent variety which was also a fail. And a daintier version of hirsutum - e.dodonaei which was also not very successful.

    Where I grew up (in the rainy NW), rosebay willowherb was always associated with disturbed ground and bombsites - very much a symbol of urban renewal

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