help! distance between crown moulding and casing too tight

3 years ago

On the second floor, we have 9 feet ceiling. Doors are likely 8 feet and already ordered. The door casing is 4.5” and already ordered. Doors can’t be adjusted. Casing can’t be adjusted but maybe it can. Crown moulding is 5.5” ceiling and down from there but maybe I can reduce to 4” or 4.5”. Crown moulding is like 8” about 5.5 from ceiling down and 3” from ceiling horizontally on the top.

The current setup only leaves 0.5” to 0.75” between the door casing and bottom of crown moulding. This is option 1. The only reason to keep this is because I have the open stairs and open to below at entry and the bigger moulding here will be visible from the main floor.

Option 2 is reduce the crown moulding to 4” vertically and keep it 3” horizontally. This makes the doors area look better on second but the moulding smaller for the open to below and stairs. See pictures.

I’ve included pictures of the master door opening the sample crown moulding at the top. The distance between moulding and casing. The stairs ceiling and the open to below ceiling. All the same moulding will be here.

Thoughts??

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Kristin Petro Interiors, Inc.

3 years ago

Add a trim piece above the doors to meet the crown, like this:

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bry911
3 years ago
What type of casing are you using (a picture would be best)?

If the casing doesn't have a lot of projection you should build it up and wrap the crown around it. Here is an old Houzz thread that I found someone has done it. https://www.houzz.com/discussions/2305267/crown-moulding-touches-window-trim-opinions-ideas
3onthetree
3 years ago
The size of that crown seems out of proportion for the ceiling heights and room sizes.
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J Sk
3 years ago
last modified: 3 years ago
I agree with @3onthetree. I think both crown and door casing are too wide. It overwhelms the space. Everything needs right proportions to look good.
millworkman
3 years ago
That is an 8" +/- crown moulding, get a 4 1/2" crown (measure diagonally as the width)/ That is definitely to big for the application. And would definitely crown your doors and trim.
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Patricia Colwell Consulting
3 years ago
I agree the trim is too large for the space .Why 8' doors when you were planning crown . Now the best is to make the crown smaller and if the door trim can be changed that too. IMO bedroom levels can easily go with no crown
res2architect
3 years ago
last modified: 3 years ago
What is meant by "likely 8 ft"; do you not know the door height that was ordered?

What is meant by "Casing can’t be adjusted but maybe it can"?

You describe the moulding as a crown but show a cove. IMO the cove is much too large and a crown might be better.

Get some smaller cove and crown samples and mock up the door and ceiling trim until you find a good compromise.

This shoud be a visual rather than a math exercise.
cpartist
3 years ago
last modified: 3 years ago
The size of that crown seems out of proportion for the ceiling heights and room sizes.

Actually I think the 8' doors are the issue. I have 9' ceilings in my second floor and went from 8' doors on the first floor (10' ceilings) to 6'8" doors on the second floor.

I agree though that either way the molding is too large.
Rick M
Original Author
3 years ago
Thanks everyone I agree. I think this is a 96” door. I’ve already ordered it so can’t change it the door.
In retrospect door should not be as tall.

Will likely keep moulding big and door areas will look very tight but then my open to below at entry will have the bigger moulding when you look up from first floor and also stairs open area. All visible from first floor so will eat that trade off.
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Mark Bischak, Architect
3 years ago
The third image reminds me of a Rorschach test.
Gerry
3 years ago
To me, it matters less on how it’s viewed from below than how odd it will look when you’re upstairs. I would reduce the crown up there.