I think a grafted rose will for sure ! i see some thick as small tree trunks here .

If the rose is fast growing and manages to stay alive for a decade, if-if-if.

After doing the 1st pass of later winter pruning, it led me to google -own root roses-

I know when I started ordering/growing roses, there was a fierce camp of own root growers and why. I went the grafted route mainly cause the majority of them were but also it was my understanding most grafted are more vigorus. Who doesn't want instant gratification when growing ;-/

In the same video linked, you can see he's got 3 main stems with a side shoot on 2 of them.

And here I am , year 5 into roses and I'm thinking the opposite of what I see in the video.

I thinking I want to see many stems from the soil line coming up, which then lets me easily remove older ones without second guessing . *honestly, once it leafs out, how the canes ares, thick and WYES vs many singular canes* is not on my radar,

Eh, maybe I'm overthinking this.

Grafted often is more vigorous. I don't know about "usually". I think the main advantage of grafting is a shortcut for the growers, to help them get plants saleable a year or two sooner than they would be if grown own-root. They grow thousands and thousands of Dr. Huey roots without any care of what the trends in demand for different blooms will be. Then they graft whatever scion they think will sell in the near future.

Once the plant is in your yard and established, which kind of rose is better depends on your soil, growing conditions, and pest challenges. Those big woody Dr. Huey roots could speed up your plant's growth if conditions are right. If you have freeze and thaw, grafted may be more sensitive to cold damage - or at least, can't regrow the canes you want from the root area, because that's a different rose. Some people report that grafted roses die sooner if the scion plant doesn't establish its own roots over time. This is kind of hard to predict universally.

You could always re-bury your grafted roses deeper in the hopes that the scion plant will root as well.

Oh, and based on what Jason said in the video, and pictures on HelpMeFind, City of York is a big ol' rose, and doesn't need any help from Dr. Huey. Other roses might not get quite that big, or at least not that fast. :)

I think you're confusing grafted roses and own-root roses when you refer to own-root roses as bare-root roses. Grafted roses are often sold as bare-roots, meaning that the soil has been washed off of the roots. Own-root roses are generally sold in pots. It's not a big deal, but some newbies might be confused by your terminology :-D