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Rooting Evelyn with orchid soil mix??

3 years ago

I am attempting to root cuttings sent to me from my Dallas Garden. Straw, I thought I would give it a shot it is usually somewhat easy to root cuttings in Texas if you do it in February. My Dallas Evelyn was bought in 2005 so it should be good stock. In the past I just stuck prepared cuttings in a shady spot in my rose garden and covered them with a plastic bottle (in February). My soil had been amended and improved annually for years and years, I could probably have grown rocks in it :))

The current problem is that I do not have a garden in this Austin lease house. So, I am trying it in pots. I read everywhere to use sandy soil like cactus potting soil or mulch and NOT to use regular potting mix - overwatering, root rot and fungus being the primary reason for failure.

I thought I might try using orchid potting soil. Has anyone tried this soil for cuttings? It seemed an improvement over mulch or cactus mix but that is just my guess.

I am not going over the complete process of cane prep etc we know that, and it is pretty standard. The soil in the pot is my concern and has me miffed.

Darn ole David Austin, if he would just stop discontinuing these warm-blooded roses that love the southern heat, I wouldn't have to deal with all this. Thanks folks. Cuttings are to arrive this week.

I WANT THIS AGAIN!!!!!

Comments (20)

  • 3 years ago

    Anyone from Texas or another southern state please share if you have had success and have a minute. THXS

  • 3 years ago

    Those look fantastic, Ben! Could you share your rooting method in detail? Did you root them outdoors?

  • 3 years ago

    You convinced me Ben. I never thought I would do my own soil mix thus the orchid but your results shout to me. So off to Lowes this morning for supplies. i like your clear cup method but you know our Texas heat. 80++ already. This is why I opted for the bottle cover method in past so think I will stay with that. It sure would be fun to see those roots maybe I will search out extra large plastic storage containers from grocery instead of the black gallon pots I bought yesterday. I really appreciate your Evelyn offer and always your good advice😍 wish me luck.

  • 3 years ago



    not sure this was best way😬

  • 3 years ago

    I've found that nothing is better for rooting rose cuttings than plain old clean (fairly coarse) sand.

    Austin thanked User
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Are you going to put clear covers (e.g., plastic soda bottles or bags) over them, @Austin, to keep the cuttings from drying out? I then put mine under the high shade of my orange tree (the all-purpose shady microclimate in my backyard), so they won't get too hot and heat-damaged from the greenhouse effect. Once rooted, the covers come off and, after a few more weeks, or a month or two, they move out into the sun.

    The potting medium should be fine -- I've used everything from cactus soil, to half perlite/half peat, to half potting soil/half perlite and they've all worked, as long as kept evenly moist, not soggy. My neghbor uses straight perlite, with success. My current preference is the half potting soil/half perlite, because it has some nutrients, so the rooted cuttings can stay put until very well-rooted and less likely to croak when transplanted. Otherwise, weak solutions of liquid fertilzers are needed (or transplanting) and I'm not organized (or 100% adept) enough for that.

    Austin thanked catspa_zone9sunset14
  • 3 years ago

    FWIW, We usually use regular potting soil with something like vermiculite mixed in.

    Austin thanked jerijen
  • 3 years ago

    Plan to cover with bottles but it was damp and cold in Austin yesterday and the soil felt really very wet so I thought I would wait. This being Texas 40’s will be 90’s by tomorrow🦋

    i have some Rabbit Hill Cactus mix from Dallas and it has super ingreduates. could not find it in Austin but probabbly here someplace. everything Rabbit Hill is good kinda like Happy Frog

  • 3 years ago

    Uncovered outdoor cuttings work best here.

    Austin thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 3 years ago

    clear containers? Would these work? You can get bulk large 'Chinese' or 'Deli' food containers. I use em for cloches to keep the iguanas off my seedlings. I get mine from Amazon, but....


  • 3 years ago

    As long as you could see roots through. Clear disposable beverage glasses work well. Punch holes in the bottom.

  • 3 years ago

    Good advice ALL! Really appreciate everyone taking the time to make suggestions. Gezzz I just love gardens. Definitely a FINE group of people.🤩😍

  • 3 years ago

    I find different rooting techniques have different success rates depending on where you are, and environmental things like altitude, warmth, humidity, presence or absence of bacteria/spores in air and soil..In the north (zone 4/5 Ontario) I used to root cuttings in summer in ordinary potting soil under a clear soda bottle greenhouse that worked best when it was actually a bit misty.. I kept them indoors in sunny window because outside warmth and moisture were insufficient. They struck fast and easily that way and I never had a problem with mold.. Without the botlle/greenhouse affair cuttings would usually dry up before rooting. Here in Houston air carries a lot more humidity year round and I found the greenhouse system with potting soil inclined the whole situation to mold and rot, perhaps also because higher percentage of organisms in air and soil. The cuttings seemed to need air circulation.. After experimentation I found best success using plain vermiculite outdoors in the open air in a forsythe pot. No cover. This works well most of the year. I am still experimenting with different methods though.

  • 3 years ago

    Outdoors in shade I should add - nothing wants sun on it here.

  • 3 years ago

    when do you take the bottle tops off once green leaves start dhowing up

  • 3 years ago

    @Austin I take the bottle tops off after I see roots. New leaves can be misleading; I've had cuttings begin leaves developing, up to a point, which didn't go on to develop roots at all.

    Austin thanked catspa_zone9sunset14
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    I use my old tomato soil (which starts out as loam-based topsoil based on the John Innes recipe) with added perlite (or horticultural grit, perlite, even sharp sand. I have found rose cuttings to be far less temperamental about the rooting medium, so I tend to make use of anything I have handy, to be fair, as long as the medium is lean and the drainage is good.


    I generally stick 4 - 5 summer cuttings (semi-ripe) in a 5 -10 litre container and cover with a clear cloche. Over winter, once the cuttings have struck (I use the tug method - risky but usually unambiguous), I remove the cloches and leave the roses in the garden until about now, when I separate them and plant them in 5litre pots until they go in the ground some time in Autumn. If I have it handy, I do use Rhizopon pink (0.1%) rooting powder.

  • 3 years ago

    Would you have any extra cuttings of Evelyn? I have traded stems, easy to mail. I have rooted several roses, I use hormex #3, can find on amazon. I use a medium of equal parts, course sand, peat moss and perlite.

  • 3 years ago

    Not yet. Sorry. But if these grow I will gladly share. Every cutting is putting on leaves in mass. I used Ben’s recipe. It seems that the medium is not as important as other contingents. That observation is from all the posts I have received here. Straw in Chicago was sending out Evelyn cutting. Her location makes it more difficult and her bush is tiny compared to my Dallas monster. You might check with her.