Looking specifically for size. REAL size lol. I'm seeing sizes of 4' x 4', but that's pretty much how descriptions of Winecraft Black started out too lol. Now I'm seeing PW revised their Winecraft Black size to 10' x 8' and seeing real-life garden reviews of similar larger size. (Not to mention most nurseries still say it is 4-6 H & W.) So I'm wondering if anyone has grown Velveteeny and what their experience is. This one seems harder to find so I am guessing it is not too widely grown.

Thanks,

:)

Dee

P.S. Open to suggestions of other shrubs with dark foliage that are about 6-7 feet tall and survive zone 6. Already also considering physocarpus Summer Wine Black. Thanks!