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Boy is Rooguchi vigorous

3 years ago
last modified: 3 years ago

I have had one of these clematis for several years now and every spring it comes to life just roarin' to grow. (I have several other clematis, including Summer Snow & SAC, and Rooguchi, at least in the beginning, grows just as quickly and in my location it starts from ground level each spring.)

It isn't even May 1 and it is over a foot tall and there are so many shoots.


(I have a new and much larger obelisk for this Rooguchi and so I am interested to see if it is able to fill it out.)



Comments (47)

  • 3 years ago

    It is clearly on a mission to impress and has succeeded! That is one happy plant.

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked peren.all Zone 5a Ontario Canada
  • 3 years ago

    I pulled mine out and have regretted it ever since. Must get a new one again.

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked rosaprimula UK (Cambridge) Z8/9
  • 3 years ago

    For sure @peren.all Zone 5a Ontario Canada and what is 'admirable' about this Rooguchi is that each of the last couple of years I see obvious sign of voles/mice having made tunnels right in and around it. But no problem for this clematis...water off a ducks back ;).

  • 3 years ago

    Hey @rosaprimula UK (Cambridge) Z8/9, just curious, do you recall why you pulled out Rooguchi?

  • 3 years ago

    Rouge, where did you get yours?

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked gdinieontarioz5
  • 3 years ago

    That's growing nicely. I had one in a pretty big pot and it too put out a lot of stems. Maybe it exhausted the pot...something made it die. I did root some and put a plant of it in an unfavorable spot where it is doing great. Right now it's about 3.5' tall with multiple stems. So I'm impressed with its toughness too. Mine was a heavy bloomer the first year, less so the second year. But it was tired of its pot I guess.

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked erasmus_gw
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Sigh, I thought I would plant it as a groundcover in the wood...but it really couldn't cope with the dryness and the general wilderness thing going on. Just got smaller and smaller and I left it too long to dig up and rescue.


    Anyway, just bought another one, so thanks for that, Rouge

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked rosaprimula UK (Cambridge) Z8/9
  • 3 years ago

    I had one in a pretty big pot and it too put out a lot of stems. Maybe it exhausted the pot...


    Wow@erasmus_gw, i couldn't imagine growing this 'beast' in a container!

  • 3 years ago

    Wow, Rouge, your Rooguchi must be very happy in its location!!! i planted one last year, but it was too shady…I moved it to a sunnier location, but it succumbed to powdery mildew regardless. There’s now a small shoot coming up through the ground, but it’s entirely possible it’s a weed instead of Rooguchi.

  • 3 years ago
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    @diggerdee zone 6 CT that first picture especially is incredible!! What a monster is that Rooguchi.

  • 3 years ago

    I paid an eye-watering amount of £££ for a teeny plant in a 9cm pot...but it was the only supplier in the entire UK and needs must.


    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked rosaprimula UK (Cambridge) Z8/9
  • 3 years ago

    Rouge, here is my rooguchi today.

    Sherry

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked sherrygirl zone5 N il
  • 3 years ago

    And I bet it will be worth the pounds @rosaprimula UK (Cambridge) Z8/9 ;).

  • 3 years ago

    Eventually, rouge.

  • 3 years ago

    Hey @sherrygirl zone5 N il, I hope that obelisk of yours is lots bigger!

  • 3 years ago
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    but it was the only supplier in the entire UK and needs must.

    A good variety of clematis aren't the only plants hard to source these days but since we are talking clems...so much of what I see the last few years are Raymond Evision offerings :(.

  • 3 years ago

    I planted it on an arbor, hoping it would meander


    @diggerdee zone 6 CT, your rooguchi seems like it is an "over achiever" in that it is able to to climb nicely and neatly in that 'arbor' even though rooguchi is non vining. Do you help it make it up that support?


  • 3 years ago

    Rouge for several years I did not support them, but about two years ago they really started getting wild so I just put some twine loosely encircling the whole thing, plant and arbor. I did this in two spots, one about half way up, and the second about 3/4 of the way up. But really that is just a loose support - for the most part it stays fairly upright, save for a stray vine here or there.


    :)

    Dee

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked diggerdee zone 6 CT
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Hopefully this thread will be on going this season so we can keep track of the size of each Rooguchis :).

  • 3 years ago

    Not quite June, no open blooms and it is about 6 feet tall.


  • 3 years ago

    Aaah, mine is just topping out at around 2 feet...but is healthy and looks like it will grow more basal shoots. My last one was glorious, only rivalled by a vigorous purpurea plena elegans.

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked rosaprimula UK (Cambridge) Z8/9
  • 3 years ago

    Excellent @rosaprimula UK (Cambridge) Z8/9. Love Rooguchi.

  • 3 years ago

    I hope my Rooguchi grows up soon like all of yours! Mine was planted last year, but in too shady a spot, so it got terrible powdery mildew. I moved it to a sunnier location, but the damage was already done and it soon shriveled completely. I half expected it not to come back at all this year, but it did, although barely. And then bunnies nibbled on it, so here we are, one shoot at about 12 inches and a second smaller shoot trying to recover from bunny damage. 😩



    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked lovemycorgi z5b SE michigan
  • 3 years ago

    Mine died in a pot waiting for me to plant it. I neglected my pot ghetto terribly. oops. I killed Princess Kate too. : (

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked buyorsell888
  • 3 years ago

    Here is my Rooguchi today. It is on a 7 foot tall obelisk and the top has flopped over about 2 feet. Nothing else I can do except enjoy. It is now in a bit too much shade to be a prolific bloomer, trees got larger.

    Sherry

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked sherrygirl zone5 N il
  • 3 years ago

    Sherry there's still a good amount of blooms there!


    Unfortunately, my Zephrine Drouin (and therefore the Rooguchi intertwined with it) fell backwards off my arbor in some very strong winds back in May. Was not able to get out to put it back up and when the rose started budding up I decided to leave it until after bloom. So my Rooguchi is not as tall as in the past but still vigorous!


    Rose fallen off arbor and onto fence with Rooguchi on right - it's also knocked over and reaching toward camera instead of up






    :)

    Dee


    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked diggerdee zone 6 CT
  • 3 years ago

    It is a mystery why this has almost vanished from commerce in the UK.

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked rosaprimula UK (Cambridge) Z8/9
  • 3 years ago

    Not just in the UK @rosaprimula UK (Cambridge) Z8/9. I am being a bit facetious where I am, but if it aint a Raymond Evison offering then you will have great difficulty finding it eg Rooguchi (and of course many others).

  • 3 years ago
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    Hey @sherrygirl zone5 N il, it sounds like from your post that yours and mine are at a similar stage in growth (6 feet + and now cascading with no support).

    Here it is today.







  • 3 years ago

    Rouge that is gorgeous. I kinda like the cascade thing. What is the rose that is espaliered on the wall behind it?


    :)

    Dee

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked diggerdee zone 6 CT
  • 3 years ago

    Thanks Dee. It is a John Cabot rose.

  • 3 years ago

    Its a Monster!


  • 3 years ago

    Spectacular! And you know, even though you have it supported, look how all the uppoer growth is still pretty much upright on it's own. This plant does seem to be nice and sturdy despite the delicate appearance of each stem!


    No pics on my end. My poor Rooguchi is still flopped over my fence since the wind blew down that and Zephy in the spring. Every single day I walk under that arbor and think, geez, I've got to put these plants back on the arbor!


    :)

    Dee

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked diggerdee zone 6 CT
  • 3 years ago
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    Every single day I walk under that arbor and think, geez, I've got to put these plants back on the arbor!

    Come on Dee! Get crackin' ! :)

  • 3 years ago

    Wow, Rouge, that is certainly impressive, and I love the contrast of the deep purple blooms with the deep red of your spigelia blooms I see there in the background. Very, very nice!!

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked lovemycorgi z5b SE michigan
  • 3 years ago

    Incredible!

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked gdinieontarioz5
  • 3 years ago

    3 weeks after the most recent picture (5 posts above) and it is still crazy in bloom. (Fingers crossed that it wont develop powdery mildew.)


  • 3 years ago

    Wow, that's something. Mine is still blooming but not as prolifically as yours. (Mine is also still off the arbor......)


    :)

    Dee

  • 3 years ago

    Wow Rouge, that is eye popping. a real beauty.


    Where did you get your obelisk? So hard to find a sturdy one.

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked a2zmom_Z6_NJ
  • 3 years ago

    Almost a full month later and still there are more than enough flowers:




    (Hey @a2zmom_Z6_NJ, I apologize for not replying. To make a long story short, I had someone make it for me this past early spring. I was not as expensive as I was thinking it would be.)

  • 3 years ago

    Wow, this clematis is remarkable.!! Beautiful in your yard rouge. Thanks for sharing!


    debra

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked djacob Z6a SE WI
  • 3 years ago

    Stunning, Rouge!! Really, very, very beautiful!!


    Mine is still alive, after powdery mildew got it when it was newly planted last year and rabbits got it this year. It’s about two feet tall with zero blooms. BUT….your pics give me hope that someday it might be something beautiful.

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked lovemycorgi z5b SE michigan
  • 3 years ago

    Same here, Corgi...but I did stick it behind a clump of alstromeria and promptly forgot about it. I pulled most of the alstroe flowers and lo, Rooguchi is still hanging in there.

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked rosaprimula UK (Cambridge) Z8/9
  • 3 years ago

    Thanks very much 'corgi' and @djacobs. It can be a superb addition to one's garden. Close to 3 months of flowers.


    after powdery mildew got it


    Hey @lovemycorgi z5b SE michigan I have had powdery mildew with it in the past :( but not this season. I think the extra rain we have got this summer, coupled with the much larger obelisk has helped in this regard.


    and rabbits got it this year


    Funny you mention this as rabbits are such trouble in our garden but I have not had them eat down Rooguchi (but yes for a many other plants...including clematis.)

  • 3 years ago
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    I tend to take your plants with a pinch of incredulity, Rouge. Like, you know, there's plants, like mine and most everyone elses's, then there's Rouge's...which always look totally pristine, floriferous and fabulous. I don't know how you do it, I honestly don't. Pic after pic of truly marvellous specimens. I am no-way holding myself to your standards. Mind, everyone else seemed to have pretty outstanding experiences with this one...even me, back when I first had it.

    rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a) thanked rosaprimula UK (Cambridge) Z8/9
  • 3 years ago

    Ay caramba @rosaprimula UK (Cambridge) Z8/9! You are tres kind.


    Every day I see post after post of amazing garden pics.

    Every day I learn things from my esteemed houzz friends in this perennials forum.


    It would be so cool to be able to visit many of you in your element.