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Would I have to install new grass sod?

3 years ago

This is in North Texas/Dallas

I need advice whether to install new grass or if there is possibility to repair this? Please see pics.

Will this help: https://www.costco.com/scotts-ez-seed-patch-%26-repair-tall-fescue-lawn-patch-25-lb.product.100740853.html

Comments (18)

  • 3 years ago

    What did you start out with, St. Augustine?

  • 3 years ago

    I would also like to know what grass type you have now. St. Augustine or Bermuda don't play well with others :-)) And tall fescue would not be my first choice for anywhere in Texas but in the DFW area, you might just get away with it.

    Now is not the right time of year to try this. You will run your water bill into the national debt trying to keep grass seed alive, germinating and growing through summer. Wait until fall.

  • 3 years ago

    Sorry for the late reply. Yes looking at some old pics it is St. Augustine.
    If Fescue (the link I shared) is the not the right choice then what else could be?

    Basically I need advice if I can save some money and use a Rapid grass builder or get a landscaper to reinstall/revamp the yard.

    Thank you so much replying.

  • 3 years ago

    The EZseed product comes in a St. Augustine formulation - use that. But as stated previously, now is not a great time to do so. The heat of summer will make it very difficult to establish. Much better to wait until fall.

  • 3 years ago

    More picture showing the whole home and yard will help toward other unseeable possibilities.. including decreasing the grass areas

  • 3 years ago

    Yes more pics of the whole area are needed. And is this whole area in question irrigated? If not consider a rock garden. If yes then maybe still consider a rock garden to conserve water consumption.

  • 3 years ago

    I agree with gardengal and I live in Texas so I should know.

  • 3 years ago

    Do I see a greenish tinge to the bald patch(es)? If so I'd want to know why. Is there a wet spot/bad drainage? I wouldn't waste time and money planting new grass until the ground was thoroughly investigated, prepared and ready. Sticking new turf on top won't solve the problem. Even better skip grass and plant something that would be happy there.

  • 3 years ago

    Thank you for taking time and replying.

    Here are some more pics. Yes there is irrigation/sprinklers. It was never on for 2years and the yard solely relied on rain water.

  • 3 years ago

    That's such a small area I wouldn't even bother making it lawn. It could be an easy maintenance, drought resistant ground cover area. You won't need to use much water and you won't have to lug the mower over there.

  • 3 years ago

    I would replace it with River rock in maybe grey or a multi color nice pebble with small shrubs / plants. Include a barrier for weed prevention. FYI we have St. Augustine (we’re in SW FL) and we water twice a week April through September then one a week in the winter so it needs a lot of water. You’ll probably need to go with sod if want to replace the St. Augustine.

  • 3 years ago

    I agree with floral. You likely have a local university agricultural extension office; that is a great place to get advice and ideas on what to plant for your area.

    I could see a lovely small, low maintenance garden with drought tolerant grasses (not lawn grass), creeping succulents, or even herbs like lavender, sage, thyme and rosemary.

  • 3 years ago

    Here is what I would do based on your most recent photos:
    Blue: pea gravel walk area edged with metal (if this is where you park then you need room to get out without trampling on greenery)
    Red: faux rock covers (google them) in 3 distinct sizes to cover those items that will need access
    Yellow: one key signature shrub that is drought tolerant and that doesn’t get too big (show your local nursery garden pro and they can advise you)
    Everywhere else look at tightly spaced mondo grass. It’s green year round and doesn’t need any mowing ever. Once you do this you won’t need to touch this area (other than occasional weeding) just watch for bunnies when it’s mating season as they love mondo grass to nest in.

  • 3 years ago

    Guess my photo would help :) good luck!

  • 3 years ago

    Superb!
    I appreciate all taking time and giving useful advices. Thank you so much!!

  • 3 years ago

    If you want to restore the St Augustine, you can do that. I restored a worse looking lawn than that, but it took several years. Yours won't take as long because you have St Aug sprouting randomly across the whole area. Here is a picture of a St Augustine farm to show you what it looks like when it spreads.


    It goes out in all directions. The problem is the time of year, as Gardengal mentioned. St Augustine really spreads well when the temps are between 70 and 90. Once it gets higher than 90, it continues to survive, but it does not spread. Once the temps cool off in the fall, assuming it has been watered and fertilized, it will spread up to 7 feet in all directions. From what I see in your pictures, you could have a nice looking St Aug lawn by next spring.

    Or you could find a St Augustine dealer in your area. There should be one nursery in the area where all the landscape guys go to buy their St Augustine sod. In San Antonio that nursery is Millbergers, which doesn't help you, but I'm using them as an example to compare to Lowe's and Home Depot. You can find St Aug at those places, but the quality of sod and the cost is crazy. Millbergers sells 14 full pallets of St Aug sod every single day at a price of $1.70 per piece. Lowe's and HD sell 1 pallets per week at a price of $3.75 per piece. After a week they throw away the stuff that is too ugly to sell. So the box store stuff is beyond expiration, full of fungus, and costs more than twice what you should be able to find it for at a nursery. For your yard you could buy pieces and checkerboard them around or butt them up together and fill the area. Now is not a bad time for that.

    St Augustine produces seed occasionally, but it is not reliable for germination. Here's what the seed heads look like.


    My dog (RIP) wanted to be in all the pictures.

    If you decide to do the gravel at the car door entry, which I am in the process of planning for, also; I would suggest using pea-SIZED gravel and not pea-shaped gravel. Rounded gravel scoots everywhere and is difficult to walk in or on. The pieces slip all over each other allowing your feet to sink in. Instead I would suggest a chipped stone. Here is a pic of that and a pic of an installation with a stepping stone for landing.




    The chipped facets will lock together and create a very firm surface. The stones can be kicked out a few at a time, but nothing like the slippery pea shaped gravel. If you rent a plate vibrator packer it will create a surface you can drive on without sinking in.

    iqz thanked dchall_san_antonio
  • 3 years ago

    Thank you dchall_san_antonio

    I feel sorry about your dog.

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