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Should cabinetmaker fix or replace?

3 years ago
last modified: 3 years ago

Hi. I could use some advise. We are at the end of a remodel with a completely new kitchen, and custom wood cabinetry and panel ready appliances. I purchased an appliance pull that is hand-made brass but pointed out to the cabinet maker that I thought the screws were too short. He installed it with the short screws on the front of our freezer door panel. Not an hour after he left, I opened the freezer door and the handle came off in my hands, taking splintered wood and the short screws with it. The contractor and cabinet maker want to patch the door and reinstall the pull with longer screws. I am afraid that that won't cut it in the long term, especially when we get food in there. The door is quite heavy as it is (a subzero if that matters). Has the integrity of the wood been lost or can it be as strong after it is patched or puttied? Should I insist on a new door? Thanks for your feedback!


**I’ve edited to add photos. The pulls came with screws. The freezer drawer itself is quite heavy. Now I’m concerned that the vertical pulld won’t last. the cabinetmaker has to come back- if anyone knows what to buy, we coukd go to the hardware store and have it ready for him.






Comments (14)

  • PRO
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    I ahve no idea I dislike panelled appliances so never do them . I would think the panel should not be that heavy since it is just a panel so I guess it would have been better to have a lighter panel. I guess it would be a big issue if the screws actuall penetrsted the door too much .

  • 3 years ago

    I think the drawer itself is heavy, not the wood panel. Maybe the problem was that the screws didn't penetrate the metal door front.

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    First, glue is stronger than the lignin in wood and epoxy is much stronger. So if it is properly repaired, preferably with an epoxy product, it will likely be stronger than it was.

    Having said that, I am struggling to visualize the problem. Can you take pictures?

    ETA: It sounds like you are saying the handle is screwed into the panel door. The handle should be bolted onto the panel door. Screws, without epoxy, are never going to work.

  • 3 years ago

    Is any splintered area going to show if there is patching done and the handle is put back on?

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Really we need to see pics of the issue just like the ones posted above.

  • 3 years ago

    What I am assuming… the OP bought handles that are designed to be screwed in, rather than bolted on (see image below). The screws didn’t have enough bite and pulled out.



    I wouldn’t even screw in handles for drawers but it would probably be fine. It isn’t going to work for an appliance panel, there is just too much weight and over time it is going to fail. The installer needs to use a sex bolt instead of screws.

  • 3 years ago

    I can't take pics till the weekend. I will post then, hopefully you all will respond.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    My bet? This, AND THE SCREW?

    Panel Requirements

    Overlay and flush inset panels must be a minimum of 5/8" thick to support mounting the handle.

    • Panel thickness does not include the backer and spacer panel.
  • 3 years ago

    Hi Jan, I don’t quite understand what you mean by ’and the screw.’ The overlay panel
    is 5/8th” but I am not sure that he used the spacer panel. Can we tell by looking?

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    If they repair it with an epoxy it will be stronger than it was before. They should replace the screws with bolts and use a female receiver. These are sometimes called binder bolts, or barrel bolts but typically known as s ex bolts.



    Alternatively, they can use a threaded insert, but these are a lot more difficult after an epoxy repair because the insert needs to be headed before threading (which can be done with a lighter, but still).



    tealselkie2 thanked bry911
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Bry911, Patricia and chispa, the photos have been added above. Bry11, my instinct is that you are right about bolts rather than screws. i suppose I could take the pull to an appliance store and ask for the right bolts? i coukd ask the cabinetmajer to switch them all.

    Palimpsest, i thunk the body ofvthe pull would cover the splintering.

  • 3 years ago

    Thanks, bry11!

  • 3 years ago

    Any hardware store will have the right bolts. Finding them in a good metal match may require heading to Amazon. I prefer them on large drawers, but there is typically not a need for bolts on doors as they are just not that heavy. The exception, of course, being appliance doors.


    See my above edit about the threaded insert. I prefer bolts over threaded inserts but both will be fine.