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kitchen layout plan - ideas

3 years ago
last modified: 3 years ago

Hi!

Kindly see the attached plans.

I‘m planning a cute cottage kitchen for my mom who is 5 feet tall. Would like to avoid wall cabinets as they won’t be easily reachable for her.

This is an open kitchen, I would like to restrict the view of sink from dining/living area. Please ignore the position given in the layout. (it's not final design)

Are there any better ideas to execute my plan? How can I make the kitchen optimal for a short person? How can integrate a cofee bar in this tight space?






Comments (23)

  • 3 years ago

    Am I correct in assuming that you are not in the US? (There is nor refrigerator or oven in your plan?)Can you utilize the space from the Utility area?) You need just a sink (no dishwasher) and a range top? Is there a side view or a back yard view to take into consideration? A slightly lower counter top (what is standard where you are located?) and a full range of windows across the back wall might be nice if upper cabinets are not required. Perhaps a coffee bar can be incorporated in the dining area? I believe we need more information than you are providing! (BTW: I am 5’ tall, too! ;>)

    Rasa thanked ptreckel
  • PRO
    3 years ago

    We need a to scale floor plan of the area all windows doorways where those lead every measurement clearly marked and all on graph paper posted here in a comment DO NO start another post . This is a US site so most pros here will want feet and inches not metric.

    Rasa thanked Patricia Colwell Consulting
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Thank you for your reply @ptreckel

    the house is located in India. we dont have an oven :) but refiegarator yes, im planning to place it beween KW2 (window) & D1 (door).

    Thats right! no dishwasher, only sink. counter top height would be 82cm- 90 cm. And 82 cm would be optinal for my mom's height.. there is no inbuilt range top, but a simple gas stove on counter top. we need not considr back view or side view because security is given prime importance so parents are not ok with installing full length glass window (without grill) . even if there are not many upper cabinets planned, im thinking of giving some hanging open shelves, where we can keep things which are not for daily use, or any deco.


    "coffee bar can be incorporated in the dining area" : i'm looking forward to that idea atually, . My plan is to bring sink towards that "coffee bar" wall (see attached file, pink marking) . but how could i do that without spoiling the overall look? i mean, the height of counter top and cofee bar are different right?or would it look better if dinig and kitchen share the same counter top ? (see attachement)

  • 3 years ago

    @Patricia Colwell Consulting . Thank you! Im not sure if i could provide that. this is part of renovation so there is no detailed plan available, we are just reusing the windows we have. I basically need ideas to consider while planning my kitchen like @ptreckel suggested. "coffee bar can be incorporated in the dining area"

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    You would like to restrict the view of the sink from living and dining area yet you say you want to incorporate the sink by the coffee bar. Why?

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    @Larece Associates i guess that is the ony spot i can keep the sink hidden, the corner wall can be extended a litle bit to the coffee bar so that sink can go behind the wall, only a person who deliberately attempt will get to see it. the cofee bar counter can also be utiized to trasfer food/cutleries items to and fro..dining/kitchen.

    ulitity: the space where X marked is for traditional kitchen stove (furnace type ) and the positon cannot be changed. @coray there is a washer in the other side of utility planned and we need one in the kitchen too. door cannot be brought to that area, unfortunately.

    the stove in the kitchen should also be on that side ( as in the plan)I understand you all might find it difficlut to visualize the scenario :) im sorry for that. May be let us just focus only on one point.

    how to plan coffee bar and sink in the same line (ie, at the partition betweeen kitchen and dining) considering the wall/opening in that area can be altered?

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    What is the height of the coffee bar?

  • 3 years ago

    What about placing the gas range top in the back facing out towards the utility area and the sink tucked under the window to the right. Swap their positions. This will keep your cooking area all on that back wall and in the utility space. The sink will be partially blocked from view by the partial wall that will remain between the dining area and the kitchen. The wall between the washer and the back door might have some low level shallow cabinets with shelving above. You could use that space for a coffee area, too. Your counter between the dining area and the kitchen can be the same level as your kitchen counter OR you could raise it. A higher bar there would hide the sink, if placed on the right side wall, from view. A counter level bar would be more useable as a work space or serving area. The choice is yours.

    Rasa thanked ptreckel
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    I will consider your points. @ptreckel thank you! unfortunately the position of stove cannot be changed. it should be east facing.. :)

    @Larece Associates the height is yet to be defined. i would like to use that space as a serving area than a coffee bar but if it's multifunctional, even better. so i have to choose the height accordingly. which can be used for both purpose. does that make sense?

    it's still possible to raise or lower the that counter level..renovation just started...demolishing of the unwanted partitions are in progress ...thts why i raised the question now.. :)

  • 3 years ago

    All the information you give us is valuable. Thank you! Could the sink face the dining are if it is below a higher counter/bar? It would not be visible and could be as low as your mother would like.

    Rasa thanked ptreckel
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    @ptreckel sink can face to the dinign area.. could you share a sample image of your idea?

  • 3 years ago

    Here is an example of a two level bar with the sink tucked behind it, this one in the corner behind the bar. https://www.houzz.com/photos/teri-turan-contemporary-kitchen-atlanta-phvw-vp~102345

  • 3 years ago

    Some other examples…

    Rasa thanked ptreckel
  • 3 years ago

    If you wanted the kitchen sink to appear less visible, you could also go with a lower profile faucet. These photos can give you ideas of how a low work counter would work with a higher bar counter.

    Rasa thanked ptreckel
  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Do you have an actual picture of your kitchen?

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    thank you @ptreckel for the pictures. it really helps.

    @Larece Associates, i will share once the plastering is done. You cannot really make anything out of the present condition

    thank you all for your comments and feedback.

  • 3 years ago

    Hey! i need futther advice. spoke to the dsigner. and shared a few designs of cottage kitchens with him. its not really popular in India..


    he suggested to use plywood front (cabinet) and apply spray paint on it ( as on cars). what kind of wood do we use for this kind of kitchen? wpc (multiwood) is also widely used in India. would like to do in a bit cost effective way. any advice on this?

  • 3 years ago

    How big do you think the coffee bar will be, Rasa? Can you measure width and depth? Perhaps you can find vintage cupboards to serve as the cabinets for this area and put a new, durable counter top on them to serve as your bar area? A pre-made cabinet, even one made of a good quality plywood, might work. In the US we have cabinet grade plywood which has a smooth surface and is designed to be painted. A pressed wood (multi wood?) would not be appropriate here for the construction of cabinets. I would measure your space and see if you can find something that you might be able to repurpose as a counter. That would fit in with your cottage style!

    Rasa thanked ptreckel
  • 3 years ago

    @ptreckel hi again: ) thank you!! the width of coffee bar would be 160 cm. there is no good chance to find vintage cupboards hence planning to do custom made.

    im planning the whole kitchen now. designer mentioned that screws won't sit well on multiwood. i feel spray painting is an expensive choice and not sure if there is any wear&tear occur later..so i guess we can fix plywood. or can we use a mix of different materials considering the usage? like cabinets which are not frequently used could have a cheaper option..?

  • 3 years ago

    What are your kitchen cabinets made of now? Or are they counters with shelves beneath them? Something like having a long narrow table built from common wood (pine in the US) might be all that you need for the structure. With shelves beneath that for pots, pans, plates, etc. You could avoid the use of doors on the kitchen side, using a curtain of cotton print fabric stretched across the space. Such curtains are often found in cozy English cottage kitchens. For the side of the bar facing the dining area, perhaps a sheet of furniture quality plywood? Painted (by hand) a plain white or a color that would look good in the dining room. For a Bar top, a varnished piece of quality wood as your counter. If you do two levels, two pieces of matching wood for the work surface and the higher bar area that is on the side of the dining room. It shouldn’t be too difficult to have built.

    Rasa thanked ptreckel
  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Is the plaster done?

  • 3 years ago

    The kitchen is currently vacant. Everything has to be planned from scratch.
    Plastering is not complete.