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enduring matte (green) tiles for backsplash

3 years ago
last modified: 3 years ago

Welcome to one of the slowest DIY kitchen renovation! We're very happy with everything and it's a good lesson for our family in wants vs needs and all that but decision-making gets tiring.

We are ready to find backsplash tile. We have a plate rack above the dishwasher but don't plan on having upper cabinets. The existing shelves and paneling on the stove wall will come down, hood stays. We want tile to the same height as though there were uppers above the counter, then to the hood behind the stove. There will be a (walnut?) shelf above the hood and a 6" deep (walnut?) shelf above the rest of that wall (where the tile will end). Tile will continue on the sink wall at the same height and under the window. It will also continue under the plate rack and to the floor on that short wall that gets splashed on from loading the dishwasher. We will have solid walnut oiled drawer and door fronts.

It's a very busy farm kitchen and anything that doesn't look dirty after a day can be considered. I brought home a few samples and like the very light green and a matte beige 3x6 tile. The glossy ones were too much glare with the light from the south window. The designer helping with samples had a particular vision so my samples vary little. I like them but I wonder what else you may suggest that is matte and enduring style. I'd probably choose a 6x6 square before a 2x8 straight stacked. Those are gorgeous, but not for me.

There's another L of cabinets behind this area but we're thinking it stays painted and simple with no splash. I know some of you will tell me to tile to the ceiling and that will not happen; I just don't like it.






Comments (33)

  • 3 years ago

    If you want bullnose or other trim for a finished look at the top of your backsplash tile, check to see if that's actually available for either of your two green tiles. I hope your new exhaust fan will be vented to the outside.

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    Here's some photos with

    tiles.




    We want to play up greens and browns, not the purples or blues. And we're looking for an economical option ideally.

  • 3 years ago

    Is that Fusion quartzite? That’s what we’re using in our kitchen and are leaning toward a reef glass tile in Palm. https://www.jeffreycourt.com/product/reef-glass/field-tile-3-x-6-6-3/palm/. I love the countertop!

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  • 3 years ago
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    Those will be pretty together! It's not Fusion, it's a quartzite called Excalibur...I've never seen it anywhere else. I love it too! I mean- THANKS. :) Our farmhouse walls are much too wonky for glass tile to look good in this application. I like the palm color though and wonder if something more saturated will look nice in mine. I keep moving to the very light colors though.

  • 3 years ago

    Our second choice of backsplash tile was very similar to the last photo you posted. I had posted on here regarding backsplash and was given the sage advice to keep it matte/non-reflective due to the business in my kitchen overall. Very good advice, IMO.

    Here’s our Fusion quartzite with our backsplash options:

    Letthe Excalibur be the star! It’s gorgeous!

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  • 3 years ago
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    Thanks @apple_pie_order! Bullnose looks so much better at edges, good reminder. The fan stays and it is vented to the outside. It's a standard under cabinet fan, just mounted to a shelf. It's great.


    Eileen's kitchen has a lot of similarities to mine (love it!). https://www.houzz.com/discussions/6365352/seeking-backsplash-advice

    I'm not a fan of the 4" backsplashes made of counter material that was the popular suggestion there. We cook and process a lot of food and we need something easily cleaned higher up-- where we splash. The wall behind the paneling is a mess and needs skimcoated.


    Agreed about something simple and matte. I'm hoping some tile geeks share specific brands, size and even maybe layout suggestions.

  • 3 years ago

    I love your countertops!

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  • 3 years ago
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    @molman I love your counters! My vote is the green - it's nice to bring the outside in. Would you mind sharing the source or a link? I'm also looking for a low variation tile in a 6x6 if possible. (Googling 'Enduring matte tile' didn't find anything. Or more accurately, it found all kinds of stuff but nothing like yours :) ) Thanks!

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  • 3 years ago
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    Daltile Farrier in Grullo is perfect matte tile for that stone. It comes in several shapes, and has a jolly to finish off the raw edge.

    https://www.daltile.com/products/Wall/Farrier/Grullo





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  • 3 years ago

    We waited 10 months for our windows to arrive before the final decision on the backsplash was made which finally happened three weeks ago. I didn’t want to pick the backsplash until I could see my options in the natural light that I now have. We’re leaning toward the Palm 6x14 in a subway pattern with narrow grout lines. The “see it in your room” tool on the Jeffery Court website helped us decide on the larger tile.

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    3 years ago
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    I think you will struggle both look and budget on green, and I do not see glass tile in a farm setting, at all. It needs some complexity in tone if you want a color

    Two below. the first better by far: )

    https://biaggiotile.com/brands/bedrosians-tile-stone-b-117/marin-t-13628/misty-blue-m-122831/







    Tile Bar:, Ceramic





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  • 3 years ago
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    Pratt & Larson bert has spectacularly beautiful matte tile in a fairly wide range of colors.

    Pratt + Larson Handmade Ceramic Tilemaker in Portland, Oregon (prattandlarson.com)

    Fireclay is another terrific option. Here again, wide range of color choices in matte, and you can order samples.

    Fireclay Tile - Handmade in California - Homepage | Fireclay Tile

    Neither of these is cheap, though. Matte and green is going to be hard to find on a budget.

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  • 3 years ago

    The counter is spectacular! I can see why it was your splurge, to center the kitchen around. That Farrier looks like a good color match to the greeny gray tans in it. . Daltile is usually pretty affordable as well, so that might help dtsy in budget. Otherwise, Fireclay with it would be gorgeously over the top!

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  • 3 years ago
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    Thanks for the leads! Samples are ordered. I got some Pratt & Larson samples (gorgeous and lots of matte greens) but I can't get a sense of cost. Does anyone know a ballpark square foot cost for the Craftsman line?

    What do you think of this tall and skinny porcelain? I like the nod to beadboard, which is appropriate for this farmhouse.


    Another matte Daltile option. The scale is wrong- they are 1x3 mosaics. More commercial typically but I like how the simple pattern reads a little like nice texture or wallpaper (I wouldn't choose white grout).


  • 3 years ago

    And this is the Daltile Farrier from their website rendering, again, scale is off. I have one sample on a board.


  • 3 years ago

    I like the tall skinny porcelain!

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  • 3 years ago

    I like the tall skinny porcelain too. A couple of reasons - the neutral color let’s the stone countertop get the attention; mimicking farmhouse bead board is appropriate; the other tiles start to look busy and compete with the swirls in the stone once you add grout.

    We don’t have a cooktop near our backsplash (it’s in a small island in the middle of the kitchen) and I opted for painted bead board. It’s very “quiet” and let’s my countertop get all the attention. The vertical tiles look the best next to the stone and definitely feels right with your style.

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  • 3 years ago
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    "I got some Pratt & Larson samples (gorgeous and lots of matte greens) but I can't get a sense of cost. Does anyone know a ballpark square foot cost for the Craftsman line?"

    I don't think the Craftsman colors are going to look good with your counter -- there is a lot of variation in the color, I find them visually busy and think they will compete with your stone.

    Instead, look at the P&L Parchment (P) line of colors -- those have a low color variation.

    FWIW, I have Pratt & Larson P210 on rustic field tile. I don't remember the exact cost, would have to look at the receipt, but it was in the ballpark of $4000 for ~75 sq feet of tile and pencil trim. Pricey, but worth it.



    ETA: I looked at the receipt, it was $4097 for the tile and the trim. Ask your tile person if you can use their contractor discount when you order the tile if they're on file at the local tile retailer who carries P&L. They might say no or the retailer might not allow it, but it's worth a try.

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  • 3 years ago

    I'm a fan of the skinny porcelain. And I would use that walnut shelf (a la Joanna Gaines). I also think the sagey green early in your post would be lovely.

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  • 3 years ago

    We’ll it’s pricy, but I’m also looking for a non shiny green and the fire lay was the prettiest I’ve seen so far. Hunter green in matte, but it wasn’t dull. Just deep, rich color. Wasn’t quite right color wise for me, and the hunter is way darker than you want, but worth a look just to see some options.

    https://www.fireclaytile.com/tile/colors?tile_colors[0=Greens&sheens[0=Matte

    At this point I’ve given up on tile until I find one I love as much but that works better color wise.

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  • 3 years ago
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    Samples arrived yesterday- tell me what you think! I photographed the top two under the light of the hood (which makes everything look warmer) and under the window. Unfortunately neither of these collections have trim options. Everything can/would have a shelf on top or window trim, except the wall to the right of the dishwasher where I plan to tile to the floor/protruding wall corner.

    1. skinny porcelain is availabe in any length (custom cut) but I think it may be a big layout headache under the hood and in front of the dishwasher.




    2. Fireclay's matte green Manzanita would be a 3x9 laid out in staggered brick. It's only $12/sf and pretty much exactly what I envisioned! How would you finish the edges where we're tiling to the floor by the dishwasher (see the very first photo I posted)?




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    @chicagoans were you wanting a link to the counter tops? They are from Stone Innovations. They have a nice inventory on their website. Their warehouse is in Plover, WI and they have showrooms throughout WI. We wanted natural stone but weren't finding granites we liked and quartzites were out of budget (don't like marble or soapstone). We got this quartzite priced at a basic granite. People weren't buying it! I went on vacation and fell in love all over again. It's just perfect for us.

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    Beautiful counters, and I think your Fireclay (was that what was on the sample board you posted first, because that was gorgeous too) seems wonderful. Trust your instincts -- that mild green will have much more life than the grays and beiges, and I think it will wear well, fashion wise. Lovely!!


    Edited to add: just use Schlyuter (sp?!) edging if needed. It makes a clean edge, and you can get it in any metal tone, white, etc. (maybe even a green? I'd have to look), so it disappears.


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  • 3 years ago

    I might like the green one on the board a bit better but it's glossy and I really did not like that. Thanks, @acm!

  • 3 years ago

    Ah! I lost that detail along the way.

    You may have a rare find to be getting Fireclay that you love for a reasonable price. Grab it! :)

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  • PRO
    3 years ago

    If that is thicker tile, use a 125 Schluter Jolly in the Greige (J125TSBG) or Stone Gray (J125TSSG) color. Both of those colors are in your counters.

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  • 3 years ago

    Of your two choices, the Fireclay is by far the better one. Hard no to the skinny grey tile.


    On my monitor, though, the Fireclay is leaning more blue-grey that it is green; IDK if I like it.

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  • 3 years ago

    The Fireclay tile is so perfect! 😍

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  • 3 years ago

    That tall skinny tile is everything - I think you're nuts if you skip it.

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  • 3 years ago

    Thank you all! I wish these photos could translate accurately. The skinny one is not gray, not even greige, but def beige. I think the layout of the skinny ones would really drive me nuts. If it was one height on a long bank, I think it would look fantastic, not with the stove and the DW walls breaking up the simplicity though.


    Try these images of the Fireclay (they even have the walnut wood tone):




    or their page with Manzanita:

    https://www.fireclaytile.com/quick-ship/essentials/quick-ship-3x9-manzanita-satin


    It's definitely green first but it's subtle. I like the grout they used in both of these, especially the staggered brick. Gotta go with Manzanita!


    A couple inspiration pics (simple, natural, functional, walnut, green):

    Walnut Kitchen Remodel · More Info


    Saint Paul Craftsman · More Info



  • 3 years ago

    The last photo was in my kitchen inspiration folder, too. I love those green tiles for your kitchen.

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  • 3 years ago

    Yes, that last photo is perfect for your kitchen.

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