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Allium basalticum (?) Silver spring, any problems?

3 years ago

Hi there


my trusted bulb/ seed store has those in stock, they sound great

medium sized flowers

starting pink, turning white

around May

about 3 feet tall


but, big but


they are somehow related to the Allium nigrum aka a. multibulbosum) which was very weedy for me and produced foliage like an overfed leek (the veggie, not the hole...) and tons of bulblets


do any of you grow this?


an online-search did produce very little, not sure because it is "very new" or what


I garden on clay soil, mild z7, stuff like Allium Purple Sensation tends to disappear, I guess, a combination of starvation and weeding-blight...


my tall, plain Daffs or Darwin tulips keep mostly returning


but I wanted to have another go, would plant deeper, mulch/ feed more and so on. It is tall enough that it could flower above the early-summer perennials like some Geraniums, and sounds like a great garden plant, unless...


thanks for input

have a nice weekend, Lin

Comments (7)

  • 3 years ago

    I don’t have it but was curious about it… When I looked on the High Country Garden site it said it was a sport of A. multibulbosum so, if you found that one weedy, I think you should be very wary of this one! Personally I’ve found all the alliums I’ve tried are weed problems so I don’t try any others now! :-)

    linaria_gw thanked woodyoak
  • 3 years ago

    Several alliums are listed as being sterile--Millennium for one, I believe.

    linaria_gw thanked laceyvail 6A, WV
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Not a seeder or spreader...one of the reasons it is very spendy at around £6 per bulb. Therefore Ignored by me. Personally, I don't grow many alliums...but when and where I do, I want lots of them, so am perfectly happy with a forest of plain old chives and Purple Sensation or sphaeralcephalon colonising areas between the ramblers. One thing I will say about (most) seedy alliums - they tend to stay fairly contained (unlike many, many other far less welcome volunteers). Obvs, I would be less sanguine about a.triqueterum (three cornered leek), mind) Spellings may be dubious.

    linaria_gw thanked rosaprimula UK (Cambridge) Z8/9
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    thanks everyone

    rosaprimula, good point, I did check on the website, 10 bulbs for 35 Euro, well, that is the strongest argument that it is not a weedy spreader or bulb producer, I had overlooked the price before - ahem

    sports do funny things sometimes, there is a cultivar or sport of the Crocus tommasinianus, the plain species is seeding freely,

    Ruby-something is sterile, very showy in the flower and has to be propagated via bulbs...

    and costs a fortune also.

    so, I will ponder my garden budget and perhaps order some, the rest of the Silver spring sounds great,

    have a nice Sunday,

    yours,

    Lin

  • 3 years ago

    One thing I will say about (most) seedy alliums - they tend to stay fairly contained (unlike many, many other far less welcome volunteers).


    That may well be your experience @rosaprimula UK (Cambridge) Z8/9 but it reminded me of the "horror story" that a gardener friend of mine relayed to me earlier this year. She bought this allium


    https://www.brecksbulbs.ca/product/hair-allium


    And she has rued the day that she ever planted it as it has turned up all over the place. She says it has been impossible to remove it.

    linaria_gw thanked rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a)
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Grief, that's actually horrible. I wouldn't buy 1 of them. I have alliums in 3 places at the allotment, with a mix of aforementioned varieties including some mega chive called Quattro or something like...and none of them have ever really spread beyond their respective borders, even after years and years of afflatunense...although the original dozen bulbs now number over a 100 under the ramblers and clematis. Even the really seedy three cornered leek has mainly stayed in one long border (one of my customers gardens).

  • 3 years ago

    Opinion: Allium seed is fairly large and heavy and unless extreme winds or water move it, it won't go far.