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Layout challenge? Three areas in an open-concept living space!

3 years ago
last modified: 3 years ago

My son and his partner are having a new house built.

The main living area (kitchen, dining, living) is 17x20'.

The 20' north wall is mostly floor to ceiling windows.

The entrance to the space is the very right of the 20' south (windowless) wall.

**Please note: The exit door (and accompanying deck) on the 17' west wall will now be on the 17' east wall. The exit door can be anywhere along the length of the deck on that east wall.

He is open to changing window placement on the 17' east and west walls.

The suggested layout of the entire room just doesn't feel like the best or efficient use of the space.

He has asked for my feedback regarding the suggested kitchen layout. As seein in the picture, it is about a 16' bank of cabinetry/appliances - against a windowless wall.

I initially thought of moving the cabinetry to the left and wrapping it a bit around the west wall, ensuring sink is under a window then adding an island but it feels like it takes up too much of the space. I then thought of shortening the current bank to some extent and doing a sizeable island (and sink) with seating but it seems to eat up too much depth. I've come to think that creating three separate areas in an almost square space can be a challenge!

This couple are minimalists and spend most of their free time being active in the outdoors. They entertain large groups often - more party then sit down dinner per se. Although they have a dining table, they are possibly open to having a large island with lots of seating instead.

I would be grateful for your insight into what layout might serve their needs and make the best of this space - thank you!


Comments (9)

  • PRO
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    You need to be working with a good architect, kitchen designer, and interior designer. Architect first. This one skimmed a book on Bauhaus without understanding any of it but boxes. The lack of definition of spaces is a BIG problem.

  • 3 years ago

    The main living area (kitchen, dining, living) is 17x20'.

    - This is small. Apartment sized really. I'd suggest they go visit "show apartments" as if they're going to rent ... look at how things are staged /how areas are divided.

    - If they don't yet own furniture, they should buy small stuff. When shopping, they should ask to see apartment sized items.

    - As shown, the sofa creates a barrier between the kitchen and living spaces ... it'd be better to turn the living room seating towards the room /place the back of the sofa against the wall /open it up towards the room. Easier for traffic flow.

    - I don't see a TV in the living space.

    - I don't see a coat closet, pantry or any other storage. Perhaps a small closet of some description could help define the areas?

    He has asked for my feedback regarding the suggested kitchen layout.

    - A long single cabinet run will make for lots of walking back and forth. Inefficient. Maybe a small L in the corner with a narrow /no seating island placed catty-cornered, dividing it from the rest of the space?

    - I'd like to see banquette seating, which takes up less space than a traditional table. You could also build storage under the banquette.

    - I'd replace the hinged door to the patio with a slider, which won't require "parking space" and will be more traffic-friendly for those large get-togethers.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    THis space is incredibly small for an actul house so I need more info . This space you post is smaller than my LR I could probably do LR / dr in that space but there is no way for a kitchen and for sure not if you like to entertain . Where will people even walk and for sure no space for an island

  • 3 years ago

    If TV goes on the right wall, then couch faces that and chairs on that side. a banquette might be effiicient for space and storage, and then maybe they could have a small rolling island to bring out when cooking or having company standing around?

  • 3 years ago

    It would bd interesting to know the rest of the house layout and total square footage. Not at all saying “ need a bigger house”, but since this room is tight anc I’d the “ everything “ space, , is it a special sort of small house, like a cottage somewhere, or particular urban area or lot restrictions , & how rest of rooms are sized for efficiency, or maybe to support the outdoor hobbies and travel & such.

    Nothing other than my own interest in home design and “ problem- solving” to meet needs of site, budget, lifestyle going on here, how to multi- purpose rooms , etc, so no need to go beyond your original question, really.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Unless a version of a "tiny" house, it's an apartment. Personally, if you can't build 1200 sq feet" I wouldn't build. At this size, it's more like a pool house with a kitchenette, that has a bedroom and acts as a guest house to a min and much larger home.

    About the best you can do? Don't obsess on a window over a sink. : )

    Not much you can do. No matter doors or windows.



  • 3 years ago

    Sounds like entertaining is the name of the game here. Forgo the dining table if sit down dinners are not the thing. If minimalism is the style, consider low off-the-floor sofas and an Eames lounge chair and ottoman. Keep all the tables wood cubes. MCM Wishbone bar stools at the island.

    Is this really a house? How much access is needed from the sliders?


  • 2 years ago

    A belated but sincere thank you for all the input. I visited with my son in the fall and we gave consideration to each one. Again, thank you!