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2 years ago

Hello! We just built a custom home and, while it is incredibly beautiful, the area around the front door is just off. I should have pushed the builders harder for a drawing to scale, unfortunately.

I’m including some pics of different angles of the house so you can see. I think the front door is too small, and the windows around/above the door are too large for the scale of the house. The thick black trim around the door is also not ideal.

At this point we can’t make any changes to the actual build so I wanted to see if you had any advice on small cosmetic changes to help distract from the scale issues?

Possibly paint the trim around the door, lighten the door stain color, add larger pots next to the door, etc?

Thank you so much in advance!

Comments (25)

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Go darker not lighter. It will camouflage the door make it look like all the glass and black are one large piece. While you are at it the trim should all be black--no white. I would like to see the side /garage facade from the street. That entrance looks more intriguing than this entrance. The white trim made me wonder if it was a different home.

  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Aurrggh

    Change the door to full glass to mimic the over scale side lights. Anything less is making the door appear a mouse hole entry.

    Whomever dreamed up that combo should be taken to a woodshed.......big stick to follow.

    #$%^&^^%

    Not loving trim white or garage doors either. Sorry.

    Maybe an almost black on trim, and same on garage doors

  • 2 years ago

    Hi! Here are some more pics of other angles. I like all of the lighter colors on the side with the light color side door and garage doors.

    Jan, this is my house! And I love it. Would love kind comments only pretty please :)

  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    You asked? The CONTRAST at the front entry will never look right. The solid door unless black will not work .The glass will read dark/black in daylight. Any light door, any tone.......result will be same. It won't be pretty : ) and will destroy proportion, as it is now doing and it's exactly what is bothering you, along WITH the orange tone as it reads just that on my monitor.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    I do like the 'side' entrance better. It's more cohesive. And truly it's the entrance that will be used 99% of the time. All glass or black for the front door. The glass carries your glassed atrium through. If you prefer the lighter colors, and I 100% agree, why the black windows? It's a very expensive looking home. It just needs a bit of cohesion. Either the white trim or new white windows or it will never be as pulled together as you are wanting it to be.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Agree with Jan’s comments. My2 cents, i would either remove, or move ( reposition, perpendicular? pulling them out some ) ) the planters flanking the front door. They’re making the entry look even narrower, squishing it. A nice wide outdoor rug in a simple design would look better. 1000’s online, your door mat is too small.

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    This looks so much better, it's more cohesive and the proportions are perfect:


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  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Absolutely on these points:

    Remove the planters. They look cluttery. (Or at least turn them sideways and pull them away from the door. And trim them back.)

    Add a big rug.

    Get a black door or glass door. The small door you have now - in a contrasting color - destroys the whole look. It may not actually be small but it looks small because it’s a different color.

    Don’t you have an exterior light at the front? Do you have room for a pendant?

    It appears to be a very nice home. You can make it better, though.

  • 2 years ago

    Beautiful home! Consider taking flowers away from entry and put a larger welcome rug like 4x6 size. Further out on each side of steps could be a pretty planter that compliments in color to put plants in. I like the door style and you’re right that it seems off maybe due to color since nothing else in that area accentuates it to strike a balance. Explore other door colors if wanting to keep it.

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    It looks to me like the entry area was designed to be a modern glass hyphen connecting two forms referencing separate traditional structures. This illusion was killed when the trim on the hyphen was painted white and the traditional gutter was installed. I would paint out everything on the hyphen black including the door and the fascia. If you wanted some warmth redo the porch ceiling with natural wood. Get a square modern gutter and downspout.

  • 2 years ago

    I would start by painting the door black. If that doesn't do the trick I think I would get a glass door that coordinated with the windows on each side and above.

    I don't think this is a house where you want to draw a lot of attention to the front door itself, I think you want the entire area to read as a cohesive block of of transparency or dark interposed between the two gables.

    Your door area is so different than what is currently being done on most houses that I think you need to get used to it as well. Most houses now have to have a gable and all sorts of things that announce: This.Is.The.Front.Door.Right.Here.Yes.This.Is.It.Right.Here.In.The.Center.For.All.You.People.Who.Are.Easily.Confused.

    Many modernist architects deemphasized the entry, and that was not always wrong.

    Here it is with a black door and with a glass door. Without a complete entry system you may not be able to do a glass door that looks exactly like the sidelights. But you should be able to get a door with relatively narrow styles and rails with the same divided lites pattern as the sidelights.


    I would consider painting the white railing to the right black as well to make that a cohesive black opening, not interrupted by the white. Or changing that to a glass rail at some point.






  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago



    The meanie poster thanks Palimpsest : ) for the visual. She was too lazy to do same.

    Perfect world is here, as it retains ONE material and one intent.



  • 2 years ago

    Just for completion, painted rail and glass rail



  • 2 years ago


    The picture cells it but I still would black the trim on the peak and the around the windows too.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    I don't mind the white trim on the shingle.

    Here is black eaves and trim on the glass hyphen only, as suggested. This does seem to complete the idea that was started with the central area of the house.




  • 2 years ago

    I think if fascia and trim around windows were darker it would look better. The white one kind of disappears on the house ( no contrast especially in upper part of the house)

  • 2 years ago

    This is all so helpful!!! Thank you everyone! Really appreciate you mocking up these designs too.

  • 2 years ago

    Your house is beautiful, congrats! I agree the front door looks a bit off as it is right now but I LOVE the glass door and black (or glass) rail that palimpsest showed.

  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Didn't have time to read all the comments, but painting the door black will make it disappear. And paint is easy to change

  • 2 years ago

    Stain the door darker or get a full glass door. Remove the planters on either side of the door. Once your shrubs mature to full height it will help balance out the scale. If they are not going to get tall, replace them with taller shrubs.

  • 2 years ago

    I 'd go another route. More expensive. Keep the wood tone. It fits the level of house design. The door needs to be wider than the sidelights. You'll have to figure out the correct width. Use cardboard to add width. Maybe just doing the framing would be enough Maybe wood framing the existing door and sidelights. Try all the options.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    I think the issue that you are having with the door is more about the color of the door. It does not really blend with the brick in my opinion. Does your brick have gray in it (hard to know with the way computer monitors and how they present color)? If so, what about a dark or light gray door?

    How about adding a portico to your front porch area to try to balance things out? This is not the best picture for your situation but was the first one that I found that was in a modern style.


  • 2 years ago

    Thank you! I love these new ideas too.

  • 2 years ago

    Beautiful home! Before making any adjustments to the home that are hard to change later, consider hiring someone to design a more modern landscape. The planters at the entrance are beautiful but more cottage like in design and far too short. Try some tall dark planters with sculptural grasses. The plants surrounding the home are tiny- can you invest in larger plants? Yes, the ones there will grow, but a few plants that are more mature make an immediate impact. And any chance to plant a few trees? They can help soften the exterior as well.

    One thing I’m not seeing at the entrance is lighting. Are they recessed in the eaves?