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FALL COLOR THREAD - 2023

2 years ago
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eta: 9-22-2023: post date.

Changing from green has been asynchronous this season with many trees turning colors starting at the top and by the time the lower sections turn, the top is getting brown already.

With some of the maples turning well already here's my early bird Fraxinus nigra (black ash).




Along the bike trail, north of Brainerd the sumac was glowing.


Some of the red maples were almost past peak but coloring to rival the sugars.


The Virginia creepers were bright red but I was too lazy to stop for that one. :-\

New one for me this season is the deciduous holly (winterberry). :-))


My Celtis occidentalis turning lime green against the dark background of the elms.


That's all I have for now.

Anything in your area ready to post? Let's see them! :^)

Comments (176)

  • 2 years ago

    Here’s a pic of my King Crimson Red Maple. I don’t think I have ever seen it this color before. It’s leaves are a deep burgundy color. In fall the leaves turn a deep purple, almost black. I don’t know why it’s golden this year…… several years of drought? Extremely high tempurtures??? 🤷🏼‍♀️



    debra



    BillMN-z4a thanked djacob Z6a SE WI
  • 2 years ago

    Quercus nigra, usually doesn't color up till around Thanksgiving to December 1st.

    BillMN-z4a thanked Mike Hisey
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    djacob, if it is really a Crimson King, that would be a Norway maple (a reddish-leafed selection), not a red maple. Just for your info.....


    Edit: Looking at it, it is a Norway maple (bark and form).

    BillMN-z4a thanked bengz6westmd
  • 2 years ago

    Western Ozarks, St Clair County, MO.

    From Sunday, November 12th.

    BillMN-z4a thanked Mike Hisey
  • 2 years ago

    It's fairly common up here for people to refer to the red leaf norway maples as red maples.

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  • 2 years ago

    beng, thanks for your input. I was told by the certified arborist that trimmed it a few years ago that it was a King Crimson red maple. Didn’t know that was the same as a Norway red maple. Now I do! 🤗

    debra

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  • 2 years ago

    debra, one way to distinguish a Norway maple from other maples is to carefully remove a leaf at the bottom connection of its stem from the woody stem, and then look at the end of the leaf stem where it had been connected. Norway maples will show little spots of white sap. Other maples won't. But that needs to be done in the growing season -- your tree's sap now is mostly withdrawn.

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  • 2 years ago

    My favourite Liriodendron tulipifera



    Boston Ivy



    And not forgetting berries...


    Variegated Ilex aquifolium


    Pyracantha

    BillMN-z4a thanked floraluk2
  • 2 years ago

    American larch defoliated but the others are hanging on.




    And crimson spire oak



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  • 2 years ago

    Japanese maple shows the best color this year

    Crape myrtle also turn red

    Loquat trees are blooming and the fragrance intoxicates the whole yard

    Fall blooming camellia

    Happy golden fall 🍂

    BillMN-z4a thanked forever_a_newbie_VA8
  • 2 years ago

    A little zone envy going on here FAN. ;-)

  • 2 years ago

    Bill, we haven’t had a decent snow in a decade. How I envy you folks in the north❄️❄️❄️

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  • 2 years ago

    Newbie, is that a sasanqua hybrid? I grew 'Mason farm ' and 'Winters Interlude ' at my old house but flower buds are killed at about 25f so I had very few flowers.

    BillMN-z4a thanked Mike Hisey
  • 2 years ago

    Mike: we bought the camellia from HomeDepot when we first moved in and that was 16 years ago. I do not have the tag any more. I assume it should be a common camellia variety. We have 6, 7 camellia varieties and they all bloom reliably. We get single digit every winter sometime.

    Most of them we plant close to house though there are a couple in the woods. Are yours in the open air that are less protected?

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  • 2 years ago

    Microclimate but it's when the fall/winter bloomers start to break bud and our 25 degree temps usually start mid November. I haven't tried any of the April series to see if the flower buds over winter. I'm zone 6a at the very cusp of their existence anyway.

    BillMN-z4a thanked Mike Hisey
  • 2 years ago

    Mike, I see. Cold temperatue comes in before the buds are open or fully developed. That could be a problem. For us the cold weather gets here after Christmas. Then you need a hardier variety for zone 6a. Good luck still 🍀☘️🍀

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    My favourite tulip tree again. Seen over the roof tops from my bathroom window.


    Swamp Cypress spotted on my walk home today.



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  • 2 years ago

    floral, that's an impressive tuliptree, certainly makes for a great view from your window.

    A planting of Kerria japonica I drove past on Friday (11/17/23)

    A late coloring red maple in town, not sure on the cultivar (11/19/23)



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  • 2 years ago

    A pair of Ginkgos in a local park. They're the only fruit bearing ones I've seen in this country.


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    Dawn Red today. reflecting the sun and glowing.

    BillMN-z4a thanked 41 North (Zone 7a/b, NE, coastal)
  • 2 years ago

    @floraluk2 I’m thinking that in order to bear fruit must have male & female Gingkos. I think also that the fruit smells unpleasant. I’m not saying I know this for sure - relying on memory for something I read long ago.

    BillMN-z4a thanked KW PNW Z8
  • 2 years ago

    Not sure how close the male and female have to be for fertilization to occur, but guessing close as male gingko have motile sperm. Plants have complicated sex lives. The fruit of the female does stink, so mostly male trees are grown. I have also read that Gingkoes have been known to change gender though. Lots of gingkoes grown in NYC/NJ Metro Area, female fruiting ginkgoes are not unknown, and old time Asians know where they are planted so they can collect their fruit.

  • 2 years ago
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    Yes, that's correct. And the fruit do smell truly awful.

    BillMN-z4a thanked floraluk2
  • 2 years ago
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    Mixed Pyracantha hedge.


    Merging seasons. Summer into autumn. Hebe and fallen leaves.


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  • 2 years ago

    Thanks floral!

    Nice to see things there that are still growing. ;-)


    I just put out the winter holiday pots today. It's been a thing around here for several years now.

    :^)


  • 2 years ago

    Here are some pics I took around the yard in west central Arkansas this fall. The colors were shaping up to be spectacular by our standards but a hard freeze just after Halloween killed it. Our peak is usually around the end of the first week of November. All except the big sugarberry are trees I have grown from seed =)


    I have a lot more photos but these are some of the best this year.


    Blackgum




    Swamp white oak



    Willow oak



    Sugarberry



    Seedling red maple



    Seedling northern red oak


    BillMN-z4a thanked John
  • 2 years ago

    John, love the oak - both color & leaf shape

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  • 2 years ago

    Talk about end of season - but still hanging on and making a show!


    Seen at a gas station t

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    Oops again; continued from previous post...


    Seen at a gas station two hours ago (11/21/2023) in Louisville KY...




    BillMN-z4a thanked ViburnumValley central KY Bluegrass z6
  • 2 years ago

    John, your northern red oak leaves look like Shumard oak to me. Of course they are quite similar.

  • 2 years ago

    I generally avoid these threads that become huge but this one is hard to resist! One more from my garden, again a distant compressed view showing

    The left edge of a Sekken Sugi,

    the mostly shaded outline of a Cryptomeria 'Rasen'

    Abies firma of course

    behind both of them the behemoth 'Ogon', which was a 30" twig in 2009

    Poliothyrsis sinensis, which like a lot of Asian endemic genus, is late in turning

    My other Larix kaempferi and/or × marschlinsii, which is always later turning and more of a yellow than the gold of the one above

    The very tippy top of my Abies pindrow, which is now about 12' tall but I pointed the camera up in this case to show the scale of the 'Ogon'!





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  • 2 years ago

    Thanks, davidrt, nice depth of view.

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  • 2 years ago

    It very well might be Shumard, Beng. I collected the acorn from a native stand of oaks at a local park. Lots of q. alba and classic northern red. There are some planted shumard nearby. Maybe the swapped some genes. Red oaks can be a pain in the butt to ID for sure. Wish I took a pic of the acorn before I put it in the ground!


    Here is a 'shumard' as tagged but it looks more like nuttal oak to me. It hasn't started making acorns yet but I'll be sure to post some pics for an ID when it does.


    Just saw some blood red leaves on my swamp chestnut oak a few minutes ago. Might be the reddest leaves I've ever seen on an oak.



    BillMN-z4a thanked John
  • 2 years ago

    Fall color in my town is having it’s last hurrah. Most trees are leafless now. But, here are two that look spectacular on their own & not because there’s so little competition! In my front side yard is this Peve Minaret Bald Cypress. Each year at least one neighbor will ask if it’s dying since there aren’t many deciduous conifers around here.




    This purple leafed weeping beech is in my neighbor’s back yard



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  • 2 years ago

    John, you must be an oak aficionado. I can't resist since my Shumard x unknown oak is even better, still keeping a ruby-red look on Thanksgiving Day. Beginning to think it might have scarlet oak in its genes as that species colors very late & similar color. Leaf below looks fairly-much like Shumard, but leaf-forms on it vary alot.







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  • 2 years ago

    Oh, that's a real beauty you have there, Beng <3

    Oaks that that have that much pop are so nice. I wish mine colored more consistently. I have a few with scarlet genetics. They do get nice some years but never as good as the one you posted. Maybe they will get better when they are as big as that one!


    ps -


    I was user j0nd03 from years ago on Gardenweb Tree Forum. I have tried FOR YEARS to get my original account back but have finally given up. I've still checked out the forums from time to time. Just didn't post anything. Glad to be back with my tree nerd buddies =)

    BillMN-z4a thanked John
  • 2 years ago

    John, swamp chestnut oak should be planted more. Rarely seen one in my area, but the nearby Rocky Gap state park (Maryland) fortunately planted some. The leaves for an oak are quite thick and leathery.




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  • 2 years ago

    I agree! Mine has taken off like a rocket since I planted it a few years ago. You know what, I think I'm going to plant another one where I had to have 2 trees removed recently.

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    Metasequoia (Dawn Redwood)




    Bloodgood Japanese Maple this afternoon

    BillMN-z4a thanked 41 North (Zone 7a/b, NE, coastal)
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    That purple leaved 'weeping' beech looks weird. It doesn't weep. Sure it's not fastigate?


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  • 2 years ago

    @floraluk2 No - I’m not sure it’s weeping but that’s what my neighbor said it was. I think you‘re right about fastigate. New neighbor now so can’t ask. It is a very narrow tree as trees go so it does look more like a “Dawyck Purple” or Columnar Purple European Beech. I looked up purple beeches & found this name on the Great Plant Picks unbeatable Plants for your Maritime Northwest Garden - so my area. Many of the smaller limbs on the upright branches are curled & floating looking so sort of weeping & that stuck with me.

    BillMN-z4a thanked KW PNW Z8
  • 2 years ago

    The weeping beeches I'm familiar with have branches trailing down to the ground. They do truly weep. Pretty sure your neighbour's isn't one.

  • 2 years ago

    Persian Ironwood 'Golden Bell Tower'

    Acer palmatum 'Skeeters Broom'

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  • 2 years ago

    At the risk of being, um...gently reprimanded? once again, for not including any eye candy, I'll share here that Fothergilla 'Jane Platt' is an incredible fall color shrub. All of my other Fothergilla have long since defoliated, but JP has been colorful for weeks and still has not reached peak color. She also has barely dropped any leaves. This is after seven nights of frost, the coldest being 24.1F. The only other plants still showing color in my garden are Hydrangea quercifolia and one of two Lindera angustifolia (another rare must have).

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  • 2 years ago

    Lot of water and a big old boat behind the Bell Tower; what are we looking at there?


    This afternoon in downtown Louisville...






    Handsome unknown Acer palmatum and Betula nigra; I'm hoping to find out who designed this welcoming space.


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  • 2 years ago

    Hi VV...that's the Chesapeake Bay...

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  • 2 years ago

    Viburnum, that looks like a nice spot to take refuge. Did you find anything out on the design?

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  • 2 years ago

    The camellia seedling is blooming after maybe 10 years in ground. Background is Japanese maple


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  • 2 years ago

    Taken today. This daft Hamamelis doesn't realize it's nearly Christmas....



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