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favorite subtle stripes?

I’m looking for more stripes that are less dramatic in contrast—I really like Vick’s Caprice and saw Red Intuition when touring Steve Singer’s a few weeks ago. Any other striped roses you love that are more subtle? I have Commandant Beaurepaire but wish the rebloom was better.

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  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Vareigatta di Bologna-peppermint striped red/white, and Honorine de Brabant-pink striped! HdB is very disease resistant, -blooms often. VdB is very unique!

  • 3 years ago

    Kitti, I am also looking at VdB, but Palatine says it's Non Recurrent?


  • 3 years ago

    I have to go with Peach Swirl. what s healthy beautiful rose.



  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    @elenazone6

    Variegatta di Bologna can bloom for 6 weeks in June-July for me. It has the most delicious blooms so it is the only non-repeat rose I have. 6 wks of blooms is good for me! It’s peppermint stripes are soooooo unique! Make a sensational Christmas bouquet in June! Lol!



  • 3 years ago

    I like the subtle stripes better also. Hard contrast stripes just seem hard to me, kind of glaring.

    Wonderstripe can have hard contrast sometimes but usually is softer here. I really like it for color and bloom form, good vigor own root and it's fairly healthy.






    One of my plants of it developed what looks like a sport...colors are reverse..background is coral to salmon pink and the few stripes are creamy yellow. I noticed that Beth in CA has pics on hmf of this rose and most of hers are more coral pink so I wonder..maybe it's common for this rose to sport or revert .


    The sport:



    I like the found tea, Rainbow, for a soft look, great repeat and health, fragrance and vigor:



    Not hardy enough for zone 5.


    Vick's Caprice does have a soft look, good fragrance and repeat:




    Red Intuition can have some stunning blooms. The contrast is not stark. Repeats very well, usually has good bs resistance, has good vigor but my plant is grafted on multiflora. Makes an upright, branchy plant to about 5.5'. No fragrance.




  • 3 years ago

    Oh, I would love to get Peach Swirl if it was not patented. Another subtle one is Marc Chagall.




    I liked my Var. di Bologna a long time but it declined and was mostly a once bloomer. BS prone here.




  • 3 years ago

    Peppermint China has cute little blooms. The plant is a size that to me is handy...kind of low and wide. It is tough. Reblooms well.




    I'll try again on Marc Chagall.




  • 3 years ago

    Marc Chagall is one I was thinking of. I love the look of peach swirl’s stripes—they remind me of my Vick’s caprice. I think I saw a Vick’s caprice for sale at ARE if anyone is looking! And yes that red intuition is stunning—I really love the subtlety of the red stripes. Maybe there’s a yellow or purple that’s similar?

  • 3 years ago
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    Claude Monet, the bloom in the center. Abundant flowers, quick repeat, upright shape, excellent heat tolerance…the only downside is the lack of fragrance.

    Claire


  • 3 years ago

    Another vote for Burling Leong’s Flamingo Dancer.


    Covered a 7’ wall in one season. Always healthy. Thrives in hot sun - even triple digits. The striping doesn’t jump out at you, This was taken last week.

  • 3 years ago

    Love that rose wish I knew if it was hardy.

  • 3 years ago

    I agree with Marc Chagall as a nice subtle stripey.

  • 3 years ago

    La Park is a nice subtle stripe


    Pop Art is a bit brighter, but I like it too



  • 3 years ago

    Those are pretty, Ben. Alfred Sisley can have kind of a soft look.


    Rosa Mundi is very cheery looking I think.




  • 3 years ago

    I love Rosa Mundi !

  • 3 years ago

    More Monet pictures from this morning. It opens with brighter vivid color, gradually fading into a softer shade, eventually becoming more yellow.



  • 3 years ago

    Parade Day would fit into this topic. Nice plant and sweet fragrance.



  • 3 years ago

    That Claude Monet picture certainly is scrumptious. I see a similarity in that rose to Marc Chagall. Also see some similarities between Maurice Utrillo and Camille Pisarro...do you?



    Camille Pisarro


    Maurice Utrillo


    However Maurice does seem more often to have a harder contrast.



    I wonder if these Delbards came from the same crosses.

    I really like Parade Day. Will look that one up.

  • 3 years ago

    There are two Claude Monet roses. I have the original Claude Monet (JACdesa), bred by Jack Christensen and released by J&P in 1992, and by Delbard also in 1992 (!). I got my plants from cuttings from the San Jose Heritage Rose Garden in 2003. Delbard released a Claude Monet in 2012 (DELmovi) that has some similarities, but seems to have more petals and overall stronger colors. Here's the Christensen 1992 Claude Monet:

    Cuttings a little darker due to cooler weather this spring:

    But I think these are two different roses, and there is some confusion in the pics on HMF for the two. Just kinda interesting. I think Marc Chagall looks most like the original CM.

  • 3 years ago

    @claire Are you located in the US or outside of the US? This thread got me interested in whether the new 2012 Delbard Claude Monet has been released in the US. I've never seen it offered here, and it appears that the folks on HMF with this version are all in Europe. (Even if they posted their pics on the page for the 1992 Christensen version). The 1992 version is long out of commerce.

  • 3 years ago

    Susan, I am in the US, but as far as i know, this rose is not officially available in the US. I have been getting some European, Japanese, and Chinese roses from private sources, and I have rooted some of them successfully. PM me if you are interested in getting a baby Monet as I struggle with overwinter them for the chicago winter.

    claire

  • 3 years ago
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    @claire Thanks Claire for updating your profile with zone info! That makes total sense that you are getting your European and Asian roses from private sources, or oddball websites. Several other folks here have been doing the same lately and telling us about them! It appears that Certified Roses has an agreement with Delbard in the past several years to release Maurice Utrillo, Alfred Sisley, Marc Chagall, and Camille Pissarro. They were all introduced quite awhile ago. I got my original Camille Pissarro in the early 2000s from a rose friend with connections (presumably like yours). It's interesting that Certified hasn't carried Edgar Degas or the newer Claude Monet yet. Ahhh... the search for European roses :-D

    I'd be happy to grow on a rooted cutting of the new Claude Monet if you're trying to spread it around. Sorry, I don't know how to PM someone here. If you're serious, I can put my email here temporarily so we can get in contact.

  • 3 years ago

    I know Roses Unlimited offers Edgar Degas. I got a cutting of it from Cynthia ( nippstress) in NE and I later sent a little plant of Edgar to Roses Unlimited. RU offers many Delbards but I don't remember them having Claude Monet. They might appreciate a cutting or plant of it if someone wanted to get this rose out in public availability more.

  • 3 years ago

    @claire Erasmus is right, it would be a much better idea to send a plant of the new Claude Monet to Roses Unlimited to get it out there! I didn't realize that RU had Edgar Degas :-D

  • 3 years ago

    This is a great thread. KittyNYz6 - I had never heard of 'Rainbow' - thanks so much. I had no idea there was any striped tea. Teas do very well in my garden. Hmmm...I might have to get that one.


    Jackie