Another wanting help with her wishlist

2 years ago

Hi everyone,

I'm looking at ordering 7 or 8 roses and have shortlisted the following, and would be very grateful to hear people's experience with them - health, heights and widths (as so often I find mine grow larger than what's stated on HMF), bloominess (can't remember who coined this word, but thank you), repeat etc. All will get morning sun till lunchtime.

I'd like smallish ones for the front, and large vigorous one behind. The back ones have to compete with golden cane palms on a neighbour's property. The back ones can be upright, but I'd prefer the ones in front to have a more relaxed habit.

There are going in a stepped bed - one area is 18" above the other. The orangey roses will be on the higher level, where I already have Heaven on Earth, with possibly Dusky Moon behind them. And somehow that area has to blend with the pinks in the lower area. I already have Souvenir de Louis Amade planted at the far end of the lower area, and have read so many good things about Raspberry Cupcake that I'm definitely ordering that one. It will go next to SdLA.

If anyone has other suggestions I'd be most interested, though may not be able to source them in Australia.

Blackspot is a huge issue here.

Here are the ones on my list:

Sweet Mademoiselle

Princess Charlene de Monaco - fading? will only get morning sun though

Madame Delbard

Schone Maid

Chartreuse de Parme

Dream Chaser

Life of the Party

Daybreaker or Darling Charlie (Australian) for behind Heaven on Earth

and a couple of Australian ones

Dusky Moon for behind HoE

My Yellow for next to HoE

Many thanks, Trish

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titian1 10b Sydney
Original Author

2 years ago

About to put in my order. I've decided against Life of the Party as HMF says 'suited to dry climates' too. And decided to add The Golden Child (the only yellow I'm ordering), to break up all the pinks.

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oursteelers 8B PNW
2 years ago
Trish the only ones I have that you are considering are Princess Charlene de Monaco (excellent, highly recommend) and Sweet Madamoiselle (really like but so far it’s been pretty black spotty-in its defense it has only been in my garden about a year and a half)

But Chartreuse de Parme is one of my unicorn roses so if you can get it I say YES!!
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titian1 10b Sydney
Original Author
2 years ago
oursteelers, thank you for that. Very helpful. How big has your PCdM grown? The vendor lists it at 4' tall, but on HMF it appears to get a lot larger. I'm hoping that's true. Good to know about Sweet Mademoiselle, though disappointing as it's a lovely colour. Things defoliate completely here with BS. It's a bugbear. Also, what size has your CdP got to? Glad to hear you're so enthusiastic about it. It's pretty much a definite, especially as it will give a bit of contrast to all the pinks.
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Pink Rose(9b, FL )
2 years ago
last modified: 2 years ago
My Princess Charlene De Monaco was on Fortuniana rootstock and got around 6 ft tall and 3 ft wide . Somehow I didn't like that plant so I s/p it . But got a new one this year , couldn't forget the intense fragrance .

Life of the Party was in morning sun only and got black spot and eventually died . The fragrance was strong but the blooms blew away very quickly maybe in a day or so in our heat .
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sylviaww 10a, hot dry inland Socal
2 years ago
Life of the Party is a winner here, where triple digit temperatures (Fahrenheit) rule in the summer. I think that’s like 40 degrees Celsius? The blooms last several days, fall cleanly, and are very fragrant even in this dry climate. If I had room, I’d have more of them.
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titian1 10b Sydney
Original Author
2 years ago
Thanks pink rose. I think I'll have to try PCdM. That's curious about LotP! Summers are humid here. so probably it would behave more like yours.

Sylvia, I love the look of Life of the Party. Such a happy looking rose. I'm tempted to give it a try anyway.
oursteelers 8B PNW
2 years ago
I try to keep PCdM around 7 feet, i think she’d easily be 9 if I let her, around 4 feet wide

And I don’t have Chartreuse de Parme, I wish I did!!! I think Carol is the only one to actually have her
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titian1 10b Sydney
Original Author
2 years ago
last modified: 2 years ago
Oh, that's what you meant about it being your unicorn rose! I'm pretty sure Carol wants another. Maybe hers died in the GGDO.

I'm happy to hear PCdM is so vigorous. Any rose going where it's going will need to be.
rosecanadian
2 years ago
Did you get Chartreuse de Parme?? What did you get? For me CdP stayed quite low.