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Cut out for gas cooktop too small

2 years ago
last modified: 2 years ago

We need to replace the glass gas cooktop as the glass was broken when we moved in. A service man came out today and measured the opening and checked things out.

The current opening is smaller than all the cooktops listed at Lowes by 1/8 to 1/2 in in both width and length. Counter tops are granite. Can the granite counters be cut safely installed? This worries me. Do I need to worry?

Existing appliance are Frigidaire Gallery. Frigidaire has something called a fit promise where a new product should fit where an existing one did. (Just reread the details-only for electric) I'm confused how this opening is now too small to hold a cooktop. Does it potentially not need as large a space as listed in specs? Serviceman mentioned that.

Help!

Comments (16)

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    What's the size of the cutout (width x depth)?

    Did you check AJ Madison? They will likely have a larger selection and more manufacturers than Lowes (or Home Depot). ajmadison.com

    Does the cooktop have to have a glass top?

    Would you consider changing to induction, assuming you could find a cooktop to fit the cutout? (It may require adding a new 50amp circuit, depending on the cooktop and your current electrical supply.)

    RNmomof2 zone 5 thanked Buehl
  • 2 years ago

    @Joseph Corlett, LLC has done numerous sink replacements and I believe has experience making an opening in a stone counter larger. I don't know if it would be different for a cooktop, but I'm tagging him in the hopes he can chime in with information about cutting stone counters in place and perhaps any questions you could ask a fabricator or other service person.

    RNmomof2 zone 5 thanked chicagoans
  • 2 years ago

    @Buehl: What's the size of the cutout (width x depth)?

    Yup. And what's the model number of the broken cooktop?

    RNmomof2 zone 5 thanked wdccruise
  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Current cut out is 19 by 33 1/2 as measured by serviceman. I do not have a model number but it's a 9 yo Frig. Gallery black glass gas side control cooktop. Will try to find a manual. Really don't want glass again, I'm assuming it was a package deal when house was built.

    Lowes has 108 36 in gas cooktops listed on the web. Looking at the better brands, Bosch, etc, those cooktops required a much larger cut out than most of the others, locking you into their products for the life of the counter.

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Enlarging a cooktop cutout without excessive dust and without damaging the stone isn't a big deal. I use a Festool rail saw with a diamond blade. No 90* corners please, particularly if your top is engineered stone.


    You'll probably pay $250.00 - $1,000.00 depending upon where you live and the competition.

    RNmomof2 zone 5 thanked Joseph Corlett, LLC
  • 2 years ago

    Thanks @Joseph Corlett, LLC. I was hoping you would chime in. The top is granite. Is it any easier or harder to just trim off a small amount (3/16) on two sides or 3/8 all the way around? WE are in a smaller city in the Midwest so hopefully it won't be priced too bad.

    I know you do it all the time when replacing sinks, etc but I wasn't sure how hard it was for a run of the mill granite person.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    The EMPV36GC27 requires a 32.83" x 18.66" cutout so it will fit in your 33-1/2" x 19" cutout. The cooktop is black tempered glass like the broken cooktop. Owners at appliancesconnection.com and Home Depot like it.

    Empava EMPV36GC27

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Make sure you have enough cooktop flange bearing on the top if you're going to use a cutout that's too large please.

  • 2 years ago

    Good point Joseph! The Verona looks like it has enough flange on the sides.

    Per the OP:

    "Really don't want glass again, I'm assuming it was a package deal when house was built"

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    The EMPV36GC27 fits in the existing cutout, it's well regarded by owners, the glass cooktop should be easy to keep clean, and it's only $404-$420. The OP is free to buy whatever he wants; this is just an inexpensive option.

  • 2 years ago

    I agree you should look at @AJMadison.com. I would be surprised if they didn’t have pros you can call about whichever one you like fitting in the hole you currently have. They have good prices and fast shipping.

  • 2 years ago

    The measurement of the 36 in version are usually 21 deep and 36 long so I believe there is enough flange to support the cooktop.

    Does anyone know anything about Empava? I wasn't wanting glass again because I am assuming something fell out of a cabinet or microwave and shattered the glass. Maybe not a deal breaker.

    Can a homeowner install a gas cooktop?

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    "Can a homeowner install a gas cooktop?"

    Yes, homeowners "can" do DIY removal and installation of a gas cooktop. Numbers of YouTube videos show how.

    I'm assuming the question is about installation of the appliance after somebody else has trimmed your granite countertop for you.

    Also, "can" is a different question from "may" or "should."

    Whether you "may" do so depends on: (a) your local codes and your utility supplier's rules (IME, some cities and some utilities have rules requiring gas connections to be made by utility provider personnel or licensed plumbers); (b) the particular cooktop's installation instructions (i.e., some manufacturers' instructions might say that DIY installations void warranties); and (c) if your home is in a co-op , condo or homeowner association, what their rules say.

    "Should" is a judgment question. Its the same question that must be asked when DIY repairing or altering any gas connections or appliances. You can get a range of strong opinions here on this subject. Some here are confident in their abilities to, say, DIY repair Blue Star gas stoves and cooktops for which DIY repairability is considered a major selling point. Others will say that homeowners should never ever under any circumstances do anything with gas lines other than turning a valve off. If you've never done this kind of DIY work before, you can get an idea of what's involved by googling "how-to" videos. Find out if you have sufficient tools and skills, including skills with gas leak detection and any rewiring that might be required. Also, be sure to read the installation instructions and user guides for a cooktop before buying it.

  • 2 years ago

    No one has Empava brand on display. Not sure how I feel about ordering one sight unseen. Was told that repair people aren't available to work on this brand. Ugh!!

    Looking for someone to give a price on granite alterations.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    These stainless steel, 36" five-burner cooktops would also fit:


    The Bertazzoni has the most powerful burners.