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Self-leveling a painted floor in basement

2 years ago

I am in the process of finishing a room in my basement that will be a home gym and I'm trying to decide if I should level the floor. I just finished the framing and drywall, and after doing the drywall it is pretty apparent that the floor is not level (we hung the drywall level, so at the bottom you can see the variation in how much of the bottom board you can see). There doesn't seem to be a pattern to the un-levelness - it's kind of bumpy/wavy, but not consistently sloping from one side to another or anything.
I'd like the floor to be as level as possible since I will be lifting weights in there and would like to be lifting on a level surface. Also, I have no idea how I'm going to put trim down on the bottom of the walls without having noticeable gaps.
I've never used self-leveler but it seems like a relatively easy task - just mix the compound with water, pour it onto the floor, and rake it to spread it around (I know I'm oversimplifying and timing is important, etc...but still doesn't sound that difficult).
The bigger obstacle is that the floor is painted. Can I use self-leveler on a painted floor? I believe I've been told that it won't bind to a painted floor, but would it be ok if I'm doing the entire room enclosed by walls? Or is there a good reason I need to remove the paint first?
If I need to remove the paint, any suggestions on the best way to do that?

Comments (10)

  • 2 years ago

    1950s house i grew up in... half a century later.. the water heater leaked... and the floor led the water straight to the drain...


    where would have it gone if the floor was level??? .. the entire basement would have been wet ...


    ken

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Self leveler is brittle. Great under a finished material like tile when properly bonded but will fail quickly if it’s the finished surface. IMHO throw down some horse mats over the painted concrete and call it a day. You would need to get off a good amount of the paint, then use a bonding primer. Especially deep areas have to have wire mesh added.

  • 2 years ago

    I should add that the concrete floor is not intended to be the finished surface - I'm going to put rolled rubber gym flooring on top of it (horse stall mats of course are a classic for home gyms, actually used them in a previous home...but with my new house I'm going a little fancier).

  • 2 years ago

    Agree that I don’t think I’d mess with the floor. If you’re worried about covering the gaps on the wall, go higher with your baseboard moulding. Surely it’s not that big of a gap. Higher baseboards look better anyway. You may have to scribe them if the floor is too uneven (or use shoe moulding). In our basement we have plain 5 1/2” cedar as baseboard (painted).

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Then yes I think it will work,, but I would fully expect when the time comes and you pull up the horse mats or whatever that the self leveler is cracked and or delaminated.


    As for removing the paint, probably grinding is 'easiest' since it doesn't have to be pretty. Home depot rents concrete grinders which are like floor sanders on steroids. If you get 80% of the paint removed I think you will be fine.

  • 2 years ago

    ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5 - the floor is not sloped in a way that that goes towards any sort of drainage system. If anything the water would just pool in the middle of the floor.Susie . - I'm more so worried that if I have baseboard going straight across, I wouldn't be able to get it to sit on the bottom of the floor right. On one wall the floor sort of "humps" in the middle. Maybe it would be easier to explain with a picture...ill try to take one later. Agree that I prefer higher baseboards as well HALLET & Co. - thank you for the advice...I'm leaning toward not going directly on the painted concrete, so I don't have to deal with the cracking later...although with the rubber flooring on top I may never notice... Would I actually be able to use a concrete grinder to level the floor instead of using self leveler? It's possible the floor isn't as bad as I think...maybe if I just grind a few spots down it will be ok...

  • 2 years ago

    That’s why you would need to scribe the baseboards - pro finish carpenters do it for uneven floors regularly

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    If, you are using 3/4" gym mats. Just hang you baseboards 3/8" off the slab, then install the mats tight to it.

  • 2 years ago

    There are surface primers to bond the self leveling compound to various floor surfaces. Below is just one available at my nearby box store. It looks like this primer is not to be used on 'painted surfaces'. I like the idea above of grinding the surface paint, then I would apply a primer.


    https://www.menards.com/main/flooring-rugs/tile-stone/tile-installation-maintenance/tile-waterproofing-surface-prep-systems/tec-reg-multipurpose-primer-560-1-gal/7050085013/p-5239772154384327-c-6590.htm?exp=false


    Suggestion - to mix a large amount of leveling compound at once, I looked on-line for used 55 gallon drums in my area. I went to one such supplier and it turned out to be a car wash! They didn't want to fool with money and receipts; they just gave me an empty 55 gal plastic drum as a freebie (they retrieved it from the dumpster!). I cut the top off and had a large container to work with.

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Need to grind paint off as suggested. As far as mixing in big batches, the containers becomes a challenge to move unless you are mixing in place. I usually mix two bags at a time. There is plenty of working time.