I love Young Lycidis but my zone is the perfect 8 so everything seems to make it. Can you over winter in a garage ?

Pretty shots of Young Lycidas. I too am in a warmer zone but I hope somencold zoners chime in

Dave, YL is such a great rose, and your pics are beautiful. I love mine in zone7 is all I can say. Why don't you go ahead and try him? Young Lycidas may be quite cold hardy. The trouble is, I don't think anyone in your zone has taken a chance on him. Good luck. Diane

Dave5bWY Young Lycidas (grafted on Dr. Huey) bought from Regan was VERY WIMPY in my alkaline clay in its 1st year, then died through my zone 5 winter.

Young Lycidas (grafted) was also wimpy on Andrea (Flowearemusic), zone 5 Washington with much less rain than me. It died through her first zone 5 winter.

Young Lycidas (own-root) survived winter for Nola in WI, zone 5 .. she's about 1 hour north from me. But it's very small.

Young Lycidas (own-root) survived winter for a friend nearby in my zone 5, but he said it's too tiny for the past years to be worth growing & same with his own-root Lady Emma Hamilton.

I wish I could live in zone 8, Kristine - it is the perfect zone. The number of pots I have to overwinter exploded this past summer and so I’m hesitant to add another.

Thanks Oursteelers.

Your probably right, Diane. My DA roses have been hardier than my Buck roses or many others and so YL may do just fine. You inspired me to get YL in the first place and I really enjoyed growing it in Missouri - I look forward to growing it again. The fragrance is incredible.

strawchicago - I just missed your post. Thanks for all of the info. Darn - maybe I do just need to grow YL in a pot.

Hey Dave, the house next door is for sale snd has a huge zone 8 yard lol

Wont you be my neighbor

Watch out, Dave. Kristine is devious. Diane

Haha! That would be awesome Kristine! If I didn’t love my job, the mountains and snow (yes, I actually like the stuff), I would move there right away. The short growing season here leaves much to be desired.

Yes, it does. Our growing season is way too short. But you'd better check with Kristine about the condition of that house, not to mention the water leakage problem outside. Roto Rooter didn't cure the problem. Diane

Speaking of that house, an electrician was there briefly and in 2 weeks, the only thing to come out of that house is a brown dishwasher and a sink, Geeze, let me at it.

Kristine - lol. They need our energizer bunny, Kitty to have a go at it. :) :)

Dave - those blooms are EXQUISITE!!!!

I've been trying to think of what era a brown dishwasher would come from--prior to Harvest Gold or post Avocado Green. Maybe pre-Almond. Definitely after the 1950s Pink Appliance craze, which was my MIL's era. Waaaaay back. Diane

That sounds like quite the project house. Fun…but I’d rather garden :)

@strawchicago z5 - Have you had any experience with St Swithun or Eglantyne? I’m also considering them. I grew them as well in my last garden as large shrubs. I hear St Swithun is particularly hardy but the blooms faded even in part sun only in my last garden and I’m afraid they wouldn’t even look pink in my current garden.

Diane, these houses are 1963 builds and I was told that nothing new ever graced that poor house.

Carol, I believe that you are on to something, lets send Kitty in and get it done right and beautiful.

Dave, I dont blame you, gardening is much more fun.

Kristine, 1963 is post pink and pre avocado green. I don't think the brown appliance craze was very big. There were probably about 9 Brown dishwashers sold altogether. But it does camouflage dirt nicely.

Dave, I've grown Eglantyne from the year she came on the market. My first plant was at my previous home back when we were still zone 6, and there was never any cold hardiness problem. I was living about 25 miles to the west of Boise, and it was colder there, but not down to Wyoming's temps. Eglantyne was wonderful and the one I grow here produces beautiful light pink blooms. She rests between blooming quite a bit though, but she's almost 20 years old and grafted on Dr Huey. Diane

June 2023 and 19 years old.

October and still blooming.

Dave5bWY Eglantyne is best as grafted-on-Dr.Huey. Nearby rose park has 6 of them and they always have blooms on.

My own-root Eglantyne is ULTRA-WIMPY at 1' x 1' versus rose park's grafted at 4' x 3' Eglantyne smells wonderful, and it's best in partial shade.

Eglantyne's scent is old rose with a touch of ginger, pure heaven. Blooms stay pinkish regardless of the weather.

Below large pink is Eglantyne (1st-year-own-root), left is Bolero, top smaller pinkish is Frederic Mistral. Eglantyne has less blooms than Fred, but I like Eglantyne's blooms WAY MORE than Fred (lesser in scent and in beauty). Plus Eglantyne is more winter-hardy than Fred.

Great Eglantyne blooms Diane and strawchicago!

I had voles that devoured my own root Eglantyne and Gertrude Jekyll and decided to replace them with grafted plants (on multiflora) and that made such a difference. I would prefer them on multiflora instead of DH but that’s harder to find in the US. I wonder what ever happened to Palatines off patent DA roses they sold for a couple of years. I haven't seen them offered since.

Diane - oh my!!!!! SWOON!!! Especially on that first pic.

Straw - beautiful bouquet of pastels...love!! I can see why you love Eglantyne so much!

Dave, thank you. I had vole problems last winter and lost several roses to those varmints. The roses were grafted on doc and multi and own root. The voles don't care. I'm sorry about your lost roses. Multiflora and Dr Huey rootstocks work equally well here. Diane

I’m sorry to hear that, Diane - I didn’t know you lost so many. They’re awful. It was a constant fight with them before I moved - I came to fear them more than deer mowing down my roses. Dr Huey did not perform well in my previous garden but had a good experience with multiflora, and where it is supposed to be hardier, I thought maybe I’d try to find some varieties on multiflora that may benefit from being grafted, The varieties I have right now grafted on Dr Huey seem to be doing just fine and so it probably doesn’t matter.

Dave, it probably doesn't matter, I agree. In my experience, you have to buy roses from Canada if you want multiflora rootstock. I could be wrong on that. I have alkaline soil, so part of my regimen includes Lilly Miller Organic Granular fertilizer for acid loving plants. I think that helps a few roses that tend toward chlorosis in my garden like Ballerina. Most of my roses don't care. Is your soil alkaline? I would think so in Wyoming. Diane