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This deer deterrent would work, but it may not exist

2 years ago

And since I'm not very mechanically/technologically minded, it may even not be possible. But I'd like to put something on a small post that, like the wire of an electrical fence, could be baited with peanut butter and would give deer a shock. I'd place it in one leg of my L-shaped ornamental bed--easy reach to the outside electrical outlet and then move it to the other leg.

I know this kind of thing works. For many, many years I baited the electric fence around my veggie garden when I saw deer sign in the yard. When deer have a bad/scary experience in an area, they avoid it for some time--and they spread the word.

I know it would work in theory, but is it possible to do it in just one spot rather than a closed circuit fence? And does anyone know if such a thing is sold. I sure don't have the skill to make one.

Comments (56)

  • 2 years ago

    Me too!

  • 2 years ago

    That looks like it might work, but I have a very large area, and it would be very expensive. I also wonder how this would affect dogs -- my dog is free to roam, and while she tends to stay on the paths and doesn't trample the plants, I'd be worried she'd investigate and get shocked. Would a human get shocked by bumping into it or touching it and how badly would that hurt? I'd eventually end up tripping or bumping into one...

  • 2 years ago
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    Somewhere on the site it addresses contact by others. As for PB at the base, I'd be a little wary that they'd go to the base rather than the top where the shock occurs. But the product really looks terrific--well designed and quite effective. There's a lot of general deer deterrent info at the site as well. I was familiar with most of it but new gardeners might not be.

    I'll report when I know more. Hoping to use it through late winter/early spring, and that should keep them out until late summer/early fall when they're looking for winter browse.

    mxk3--from the site: Dogs should be warned and trained to leave the devices alone. If a dog should contact the electrodes of the device, the shock is uncomfortable but harmless, and they quickly learn never to touch the devices.


    But the question remains--why hasn't this taken the nation by storm? All that fussing with milorganite, garlic clips and spray repellents. Why haven't we heard about this product?

  • 2 years ago

    But *I* don't want to get shocked.

  • 2 years ago
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    Why would you? You know what it is, you know where you put it, you won't touch it.

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    2 years ago

    Maybe it isn't more popular because baiting wildlife to be shocked may be viewed as ethically questionable by some folks. I know electric fences and pops aren't supposed to injure the animals they are supposed to contain or keep out. Some probably don't consider it because of cost- electric fences and pops cost money to set up and run. Just like some people use electric fencing for livestock, but there are probably more people that don't use it. Probably some gardeners aren't keen on electric shock anything around where they are gardening for many reasons.

    Though with the way tec has advanced, I wouldn't be surprised if solar powered electric fence and pop options are available or becoming available now. Like for moving fencing for smaller livestock like goats. So maybe try checking with your local farm stores that are more likely to sell electric fencing in general. You might find some options there.

  • 2 years ago

    "Why would you? You know what it is, you know where you put it, you won't touch it."

    I've tripped and fallen over things, accidentally bumped into things, and absentmindedly set my hand down on things I shouldn't have. Haven't we all?

  • 2 years ago

    Solar charging for electric fences has been available for years. I had one at least 15 years ago and maybe more. The product on the site I linked to needs nothing else except batteries. No additional charger, posts or anything else, though the scent capsules require monthly replacement.

    I used electric fencing around my veg garden at my previous home in addition to 9 ft high deer fencing. The single strand electric was mostly used against raccoons who wanted to climb the fence. I have no qualms whatsoever about giving wildlife a harmless electric shock to keep them out of my garden. Deer populations are hugely out of control--they have become hoofed rats, gorging and flourishing on gardens both ornamental and vegetable. What's the option? Shooting them, which you can't do in town anyhow. Surely a very mild electric shock is better.

  • 2 years ago

    I say whatever works. Electric fence doesn't harm the deer. They don't understand what's happening when they get shocked, it startles them, and they don't like it.

    Just like anything or anybody, if they run into something that's not pleasant, they steer clear of it.

    Let us know how this works out Laceyvail. I'm always interested in hearing firsthand reports on ways to deter deer.

    ;-)

  • 2 years ago

    I will post as soon as I know something definite. That might take some time since I'm also using other deterrents around highly vulnerable woodies--not taking any chances. But I'm know this technique works since it worked with fencing at the veggie garden, keeping them out of the entire yard/cleared area, which was quite large.

  • 2 years ago

    I ordered three sets last night. I’ll report our experiences.


  • 2 years ago

    here is a link that is easy to find and see: https://wirelessdeerfence.com/how-it-works/

  • 2 years ago

    I just ordered a set of three--comes with enough lures to replace them monthly as indicated for a year. Now I have to remember to get batteries.

  • 2 years ago

    Well, it works. Time will tell if it's a solution.




  • 2 years ago
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    It will be interesting to see if they begin to avoid the area, or if they come to recognize which ’plant’ to stay away from. I hope you will keep posting results!

  • 2 years ago

    I am presently completely baffled by the set I ordered. Two of the three units worked fine, good spark and I set them out. I couldn't get the third unit to produce a spark, using batteries from the same pack that I used in the first two. I was kindly sent another unit, and I purchased a brand new package of energizer batteries. But the new unit doesn't work. I tried four different batteries from the new package--no spark. Then I took the 4 batteries and tried them in a clock that uses just one AA battery. Each battery worked fine.

    To make things even stranger, I tested the two units out in the garden that showed a good spark when I set them out last week. NO SPARK!! We did have rain yesterday, but they've been in strong sunlight for at least 4 hours and the laundry on the line is nearly dry.

    I don't know what to think or what to do next.


    I do know that deer associate an experience with a place and they will avoid an entire area, though they forget after awhile and have to be reminded. Also, young deer will have to learn the same lesson. I used the technique at the last place I lived. But I don't know what could possibly be wrong with the units I have. Two worked fine less than a week ago and now they don't? And a replacement for one that didn't doesn't seem to work at all, despite brand new energizers that work elsewhere.

  • 2 years ago

    I thought one of my units didn't initially work. I left it out and tried it the next day and it "sparked". I know they take a while to recharge. Could that possibly be the issue?

  • 2 years ago
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    I've tried the new one with two sets of batteries in it, both left for several hours. Nothing.

    The ones outside, and I just now checked them for the third or fourth time today, are still not showing any charge that I can see and they've been in strong sun since abut 8 this morning. It's now 2:30 so they should have dried long ago from the light rain we had yesterday. And I just brought them inside and tested them inside in the same room I had tested them in originally--no spark at all.

    Completely baffled.

    I'm going to contact the guy who developed them and see if he has any ideas.


    jrb451--Have you tested yours since the deer got shocked? Do you still get a spark?

  • 2 years ago

    I just checked and it’s working. They tend to spark easiest when I tap at the top of two prongs, not along the stem, if this makes sense. Our cameras reported no return visits last night so there’s that.

  • 2 years ago

    I reviewed testing directions, same as I 've been using since I first tested the original ones. I went out early this morning while it was still quite dark and tested one of them near the house. First 4 tests nothing, then a strong spark and sound, then nothing for 3 further tests. I came inside and tested the replacement that I had tested all day yesterday. I got a strong spark and sound, then nothing. I set it out anyhow. Is this the way they're supposed to work?


    I suppose even if they work only occasionally, they'd still be effective for the times they do work. But I'm still baffled. Shouldn't they spark every time?

  • 2 years ago

    Yes, they require some time to recharge after a discharge; a few minutes I believe.

  • 2 years ago

    Ok, understand that. But why do I have to try them several times before I get the first spark? And then why did the replacement unit fail to show a spark all day yesterday, tried every few hours, and then spark well early this morning?

  • 2 years ago

    Sorry, I don’t know the answer to that.

  • 2 years ago

    Maybe it's simply defective.

  • 2 years ago

    I think they're all working properly now. And I know for sure the principle works since I saw it over and over again at my last property when I baited a single strand electric fence around the vegetable garden. Since I built my small house and landscaped right where the large deer herd in town crosses the road, it will take some time to discourage them enough that they just cross the road without going through the landscaping. And just on the other side of the road are all the yummy yews they would ever want for winter browse.

  • 2 years ago

    I hope you'll keep updating, as these might be very useful to me.

  • 2 years ago

    I'm pretty sure I got one last night. There were some deep gouges in the crushed gravel path not far from one of the units. I have 5 out right now and I move them around a little. Keep 'em guessing. And running. I'm sure it may take a couple of years before they decide that the entire area just isn't worth the hassle. The yews are right across the street. They need to try that buffet.

  • 2 years ago

    I got pictures of a second deer being shocked in a different part of the garden. No deer pics on the camera for two days afterward. I’m optimistic. 🤞

  • 2 years ago

    Good sign jrb. Do you move the units around a little?

  • 2 years ago

    I have nine and, Yes, I move them around the garden.

  • 2 years ago

    You can of course turn them off, dab alittle peanut butter right near the top, and turn back on. That'll attract 'em more.

  • 2 years ago

    I don't think you'd want to gum up the top. The scented lures seem to work well.

  • 2 years ago

    Don't put it right on the top.

  • 2 years ago

    Anyone tried the motion-activated sprinklers?

  • 2 years ago

    I haven't, but this is so much easier to set up and I know the principle works. I'm hoping to move an entire deer herd just a few dozen feet in their path across my property. And I can see it is already working.

  • 2 years ago

    I am completely unable to access any threads on any Houzz/Garden Web forums. I was able to get to this thread this morning, but don't know how long that will last. I can get to the list page and to the posts, but can't open posts. Still trying to get help to fix it. Very computer illiterate here.

    As to the deer, the Wireless Deer Fence is definitely working. Seeing big gouges in the area around posts that have sent deer flying away. I keep moving the posts around. I fully recommend them.

  • 2 years ago

    Ok, here I'm back again. Had to get a friend to help me follow the Houzz guys instructions because they made no sense to me--good gardener, lousy computer person.

  • 2 years ago

    @laceyvail 6A, WV - any update on these? curious now that it's been a while longer. thanks!

  • 2 years ago
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    That's great news - may give them a try!


    Edited to add that I ordered a set - fingers crossed that it deters them!

  • last year

    @laceyvail 6A, WV, I took in our nine fence posts today to clean-up and replace the batteries. Four of the posts had substantial moisture inside the battery compartment and in three, the metal coils and brads had fallen apart. There was no way they would work with new batteries. I emailed the company, sending them pictures of the failed posts and asked how to proceed in getting these replaced. I'm disappointed in a 33% failure rate but glad there's a two-year warranty.


    I'll let you know how that goes.




  • last year

    Wow, I've replaced batteries several times and have not found any problems. And we've had episodes of torrential rains. I bet you get replacements with no questions.

    Do let us know.

  • last year

    Deer have tormented me this year

  • last year

    Here too they have been the worst anyone has ever seen. All over the roads in broad daylight, twins and triplets still in spots in August, and one doe and her surviving fawn raising hell in my landscaping during drought despite the wireless deer fence. I think finally one of them has finally gotten shocked and they are not coming anymore. But they pretty much demolished an entire season's growth on a very young redbud. I would have sprayed it but all I had was Liquid Fence and I learned the hard way that you can't use it on redbuds--burns them so bad that they take months to recover and regrow.

  • last year

    I have a motion activated sprinkler which works well, but I’m not able to leave it on in the day. The deer have learned to just come during daytime and clean me out

  • last year

    So, yesterday, in addition to the three posts where the metal contacts had disintegrated, I had four posts that would not deliver a shock after installing new batteries. I took them apart and removed the batteries thinking there still might be some moisture inside. This morning, I installed more new batteries after testing them in another device to ensure they worked. I let the posts set for more than an hour before testing them since they take a bit to store up a charge. No spark! I have no idea why they aren't working.


    So, out of the nine posts purchased in February of this year for $187, I have seven that do not work. I can't recommend these. I need to find a more reliable alternative.

  • last year

    I need to update my post to reflect my experience. While I did have seven that no longer worked, the company replaced them all. It seems there was some production snafu which caused water to intrude into the capsule where the batteries were, causing them to corrode. Also, the soldering came apart on several disrupting current to the metal spark units. I’m trusting that the company has addressed these issues. I again have nine working units in the garden and no deer visits. 🤞

  • last year

    Very good to know they stand behind the product.

  • last year

    Thanks for the update. I'm still debating these. Would be SO much cheaper than putting in a new fence when I re-locate my vegetable garden.