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Sassafras Foliar Peculiarity

2 years ago
last modified: 2 years ago

Is there another tree with this trait?


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  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Not that I can think of, but I bet there are others, especially in the tropics. There's a sassafras near me that has pretty much all its leaves unlobed.

  • 2 years ago

    I cannot see the picture I posted. Anyone else?

  • 2 years ago

    I don’t see a pic.

    tj

  • 2 years ago

    Because there was no picture, at first I thought you meant the odor, not the variation in lobes! The general foliar smell is shared by many members of the Lauraceae, but may not all of them have that exact smell.

    As for having or not having lobes on the same plant, I think that can happen with mulberry, which is why I was recently stumped by a mulberry seedling I saw in my garden. (see the Name That Plant forum)


  • 2 years ago

    No pic for me either, although a small pic is visible in the list of posts. Hmmmm.

  • 2 years ago
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    This is the image. Only visible as a thumbnail in the listing, not once you open the post.

    I'm not sure what the 'peculiarity' is that's being referred to.

  • 2 years ago

    Like davidrt28, mulberry was the first thing that came to mind for me. Lindera obtusiloba (same family as sassafras) also has variably shaped leaves. Photo below is a Morus australis at the Morton Arboretum


  • 2 years ago

    Broussonetia papyrifera is also a champ at producing socks, mittens, and gloves (botanical foliar morphological descriptions)...





    Post another picture already, @maackia...

  • 2 years ago

    I’m not all that familiar with this tree, but I’ve been impressed with those I have seen in arboreta. And yes, I was referring to foliar form. The pic I posted was of a very small seedling that had five leaves and at least three different shapes. Hopefully this one works.


  • 2 years ago

    Nicely done! Clear as creek water.


    Looks like a dieback/resprout. Any other plants in the area?

  • 2 years ago

    Keeping with the peculiar, I’m not sure what’s going on with these trees, but it looks like the one on left is getting aggressive. BTW, I did see a very nice single stem V. rufidulum at the NC Arboretum. I thought prunifolium was the superior ornamental, but maybe not. Unfortunately, no picture.

    Red Buckeye has become one of my very favorite small trees. I wish I would see it more often — like in my garden!



  • 2 years ago

    OMG! I was going to start a separate thread on Aesculus, but @maackia broke the ice.


    Red Buckeye (Aesculus Pavia) is so easy from seed. I have about a dozen around the Valley that I've planted on purpose - and several more volunteers due to squirrel horticulturists.






    Sorry, this free-standing specimen is all I can access from my phone. This species bloom time overlaps with Viburnum plicatum f. plicatum, V. p. f. tomentosum, V. macrocephalum, V. sargentii, V. rufidulum, Styrax obassia, and Chionanthus virginicus here at the Valley.

  • 2 years ago

    You probably remember, but I tried a couple of small A, pavia seedlings from the Valley almost exactly twelve years ago. I don’t want to be crude, but it was a quick and complete failure. If memory serves me right (insert joke), it was hot and dry soils that did them in rather than cold. Is the Bluegrass (or Bluebrass if you’re in Danville) at the northern reach of Red Buckeye? Anyone in Indiana, Ohio, or Illinois growing it? Through the combined powers of provenance and site selection I’ll be pavia proud. Okay, probably not.

  • 2 years ago

    So you’re recommending a pavia sweep? Oh, Vince would be so proud. I don’t know about a mass planting, but I do believe it‘s worth another try. You’ve been here, how would you approach it? Border? Woodland edge? I have to say that I’m surprised no one from the lower upper midwest(?) has chimed in with their Red Buckeye experience.

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